Roll Call for Race #1 @ CVR.

[Matt Murphy]

Roll Call for Race #1 @ CVR.

1/8 Scale Super Dirt Late Models:

1. Brandon Emmett
2. Phil Rodriguez
3. Allan Webster
4. Ray White
5. Matt Murphy
6. Tim Braund
7. Pete Liles
8. Gary Kyes
9. Ruben Gonzales
10. Tim Copp
11. Rolland Mathers
12. Thomas Sandoval
13. Tommy Thomson
14. Brian Jacobsen
15. Bob Newberry
16. Tony G.
17. Scott Whitlow
18. Bruce Pease
19. Randy Grenier
20. Billy Bowerman
21. Brian Rush
22. Mel Fisher
23. Cary Wright
24.
25.


1/10 Scale Nitro California Dirt Modifieds

1. Phil Rodriguez
2. Rex Isham
3. Gary Kyes
4. Ruben Gonzales
5. Tommy Thomson
6. Mike Isham
7. Doug Statler
8. Keith Tate
9. Bob Newberry
10. John Fernandez
11. Shark
12. Sherman Wong
13. Jim Bishop
14. Jim Kettlewell
15. Jim Temple
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18.
19.
20.



1/10 Scale Nitro Sprint Cars

1. Brandon Emmett
2. Jason Smith
3. Phil Rodriguez
4. Allan Webster
5. Ruben Gonzales
6. Joe Reyes
7. Rolland Mathers
8. Matt Murphy
9. Tommy Thomson
10. Brian Jacobsen
11. Michael Carbone Jr.
12. Tommy Sandoval
13. Michael Carbone Jr.
14. Bob Bradshaw
15. Doug Statler
16. Bob Newberry
17. Tony G.
18. David Wright
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20.
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22.
23.
24.
25.


1/10 Scale Electric 10.5 Sprint Cars

1. Brandon Emmett
2. Jason Smith
3. Allan Webster
4. Ray White
5. Matt Murphy
6. Pete Liles
7. Frank Hainley
8. Joe Reyes
9. Tim Copp
10. Rolland Mathers
11. Ford Cook
12. Brian Jacobsen
13. Keith Tate
14. Bob Newberry
15. Shark
16. Chris Emard
17. Logan Newberry
18. Michael Carbone Jr.
19. Big Vinnie
20. Billy Bowerman
21. Steve Watson
22. Doug Statler
23. Kevin Stevens
24. Tony Mills
25. Eric Zimmerman
26. Ernie Jasso
27. Sherman May
28. Garrett Mills
29. Mel Lindner
30. Doug Dellenbach


1/10 Scale Electric 10.5 Late Models
(Need 10 at the first race to make it an official Series Class)

1. Frank Hainley
2. Ford Cook
3. Ron Bolles
4. Matt Murphy
5. Randy Grenier
6. Kevin Stevens
7. Tim Braund
8. Joe Reyes
9. Bob Newberry
10. Doug Statler
11. Ron Burgess
12. Allan Webster
13. Dave Barber
14. Tony Gammel
15. Sherman May
16. JoJo Owens
17. Doug Dellenbach
18.
19.
20.



Spec Short Course Trucks (2wd)

1. Jason Thurn
2. Joe Reyes
3. Justin Wescott
4. Ford Cook
5. Ron Bolles
6. Doug Statler
7. Keith Tate
8. John Fernandez
9. Joe Murphy
10. Christopher Stevens
11. Shark
12. Big Vinnie
13. Steve Watson
14. Leah Craft
15. Leo Craft
16. Frank Amestoy
17. Dave Barber
18. Tony Gammel
19. Tom Thurn
20. Mel Lindner
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22.
23.
24.
25.

[rex1954]

I will be there calif dirt modified Rex

[gatepro]

Tim Braund, I'll be there for 1/8 LM

[Bullhead57]

I will be there 1/8 LM & electric sprint
Pete

[raceaddict19]

nitro and electric sprint and short course truck

[Tim Copp]

10.5 sprint for me

[Phantom257]

i am in. sct 2wd stock :thumbsup:

[vwbob16]

Bob Bradshaw Will Be There

[RollandMathers]

Super L8 and Nitro Sprinter:revs:

[Matt Murphy]

Bob - What class(es)?

Rolland - No electric sprint?

[Matt Murphy]

If you guys know that your racing buddies are planning on making the trip to CVR, have them come on here and let us know who is coming!

Already 11 8th scales scheduled to show up, and I know of over 15 that I have not heard from.

Nearing 10 Electric and Nitro Sprint cars!

[RollandMathers]

Ill give you a maybe on the E Sprint. Someones got to turn marshall. I like running multiple classes, but there's usually not enough time in the program to put solid efforts into all the cars.

[Matt Murphy]

Commit Rolland! We should have around 100 cars! Plenty of time to give solid efforts. Besides, you are the man!

[tommy2112]

Thomas Sandoval for 1/8 late model

[dsl39]

i am gonna run EDM- 1/8 LM at all tracks & nitro sprint at cvr & rescue.
Tommy Thomson

[Firemike332000]

Mike Isham for calif dirt modified

[PBR Allstar]

Matt,
Put me down for 10.5 sprint as well, and both Ron Bolles and myself for spec short course.

[BJake]

Count me in for:
electric sprint 10.5
1/8th late model
gas sprint

Brian Jacobsen

I also have two girls that will run the spec slash class, if there is one to run.

[thegman77g]

Jojo Owens, Garrett Mills, and Tony Mills all for Nitro Sprint

[vwbob16]

Bob Bradshaw For Nitro Sprint Now

[emmettracing#1]

Bob Bradshaw For Nitro Sprint Now
Hay this is brandon from cvr, I was looking at your latemodel you sold and man that thing was bitchen to bad you got rid of it, we would of loved to see that thing go! But glad to see your running nitro sprint it might be the biggest class we got so far!
Brandon

[tommy2112]

Bob Bradshaw For Nitro Sprint Now

good luck bob

[emmettracing#1]

Nitro sprint wil now have a 5min main!!

[Jason Smith]

I will come if we can run 20 minute a mains:D Just kidding guys. I am down for whatever evryone else wants to run...afterall we all have to run by the same rules.

Count me in for 10.5 sprint, and nitro sprint:thumbsup:
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[vwbob16]

Hay this is brandon from cvr, I was looking at your latemodel you sold and man that thing was bitchen to bad you got rid of it, we would of loved to see that thing go! But glad to see your running nitro sprint it might be the biggest class we got so far!
Brandon


Brandon Believe it or not I had 2 Losi lm one with the offset chassis and one with stk chassis the exact same setup on both Ran both at brc and the stk chassis car was way better and I tried A few different things on the offset car it just was alot touchier The stk Chassis was more forgiving. I beleive that from my testing that the offset car would be better on very high bite tracks as running both cars on Blacktop the offset car felt way better Due to the grip level if this makes sense. But as the grip level goes away the stk chassis lets the car roll more and creates more sidebite Like i said above i tried alot of different things on the offset car and it still was twitchy and hard to drive compared to the stk chassis I can tell more what all i did and or tried when i come down there in a couple of weeks

Bob

[emmettracing#1]

Brandon Believe it or not I had 2 Losi lm one with the offset chassis and one with stk chassis the exact same setup on both Ran both at brc and the stk chassis car was way better and I tried A few different things on the offset car it just was alot touchier The stk Chassis was more forgiving. I beleive that from my testing that the offset car would be better on very high bite tracks as running both cars on Blacktop the offset car felt way better Due to the grip level if this makes sense. But as the grip level goes away the stk chassis lets the car roll more and creates more sidebite Like i said above i tried alot of different things on the offset car and it still was twitchy and hard to drive compared to the stk chassis I can tell more what all i did and or tried when i come down there in a couple of weeks

Bob

What iv learned with offsetting something is the window is much smaller to get the setup perfect! I fought offset karts for awhile and finally I went back to straight up kart and it felt like I could make up the difference with my driving! A lot of guys forget you gotta turn right to go left some times! Lol

[Kit & Caboodle hobbies]

Lets see what cars we get together for this race as of right now Doug statler K&C I wil be running 10.5 sprint,nitro cdm,spec sct.Keith Tate K&C 10.5 sprint,nitro cdm spec sct.Bob Newberry K&C 10.5 sprint,nitro sprint,1/8 late model,nitro cdm.We will also bring other cars not on the list if theres a class ok if not ok also.Thanks Doug Kit & Caboodle Hobbies:D

[PBR Allstar]

10.5 latemodels please!!!

Doug,,, there's one on the counter in the shop,,, don't let me down! And tell Newberry he better bring his as well!!!


If someone want's to supply their own set of tires I have a very nice spare GBX with a GTB/SS10.5 that someone is welcome to run!

[raceaddict19]

john fernandez in for nitro cdm and short course truck

[P Rod]

Add Tony G to nitro sprint and 1/8 scale LM... There goes the neighborhood;)

Phil

Brentwood Racing Club.

[tommy2112]

count me as maybe for 1/10 nitro sprint

[cdrracing]

Oldrookie will be running nitro sprint.

[Matt Murphy]

Anyone know if Ron Merriman, Allan Mishaga, Buzz Enea, Mr. Viel, Scooter Whitlow, Butch Clay, Kevin Osmon or anyone else not on the list are planning on coming out?

Huge turnouts already on tap.... and lots of racers unaccounted for.....huge possibilities!

If you aren't excited yet, you aren't a RACER!!!!

Matt

[Bullhead57]

Well Scott the magic man whitlow will be there for 1/8 LM. I dont know i think it means fighting chicken or someyhing. you can also add Bruce Pease and Randy Grenier to 1/8 LM and add randy to 10th scale LM. Bruce will run eather nitro sprint or electric sprint he doesn't know witch one yet.

[raceaddict19]

if i can come up with another set of tires i will run 10.5 latemodel

joe reyes

[PBR Allstar]

Joe, I have a good set (only run two heats at K&C on a sprint car) you can have if you run.

[raceaddict19]

street tracs right, then im in too

joe reyes

[PBR Allstar]

yeah, I'm not thrilled about having to run them on a late model either?! if we're all on them then it doesn't really matter I suppose. The have medium inserts in them front and rear.

[raceaddict19]

i think i should put a 13.5 or 17.5 in my car
that car is a handfull

[Matt Murphy]

You can run Buggy tires too....any rubber tire. This track has never run foam tires, and although we expect the track to groove up, we are sticking with the club's tire rules.

Street Tracs have worked great there in the past, and just in case mother nature doesnt play nice, Pin spikes would not be a bad option.

Matt

NOTE:
We need 10 entries minimum in each of the DODC Classes to earn National DODC points. That means both sprint classes are looking good, but we need a few more 10.5 late models.

[Matt Murphy]

I am going to be running a 13.5 in my late model. I have never ran my car and been able to use more than 13.5 power.

Matt

[K Stevens]

I'm at about 50% on making it to this race, if I do make it put me down for 10.5 latemodel and SCT. No guarantees, as this is a tough weekend to travel for me...but I will do my best to support this series. 1/8th latemodel still intrigues me, but $$$ are short for me right now.

[gatepro]

Matt please put me down for 10.5 LM, Ford's gonna be letting me sport his GBX late model, Thanks again Ford!!!:thumbsup:

[raceaddict19]

joe reyes for 10.5 latemodel

[PBR Allstar]

Matt,
Just got off the phone with Bobby Newberry, put him in for 10.5 LM.

[Matt Murphy]

94 entries so far...... Keep em coming!

Matt

[shermanator4]

I think I will come out to play ,what`s this cdm ? I will bring out my NITRO EDM/TRUCK ,I am trying to get a few racers from sonoma county to come also....so maybe 3 more entries see ya at the track :tire: SHERMAN :tire:

[Kit & Caboodle hobbies]

Doug Statler 10.5 late model -10.5 sprint :thumbsup:

[Matt Murphy]

Almost to 100! 97 entries to date! We can break 100 for the first ever series race!

Matt

[Matt Murphy]

I think I will come out to play ,what`s this cdm ? I will bring out my NITRO EDM/TRUCK ,I am trying to get a few racers from sonoma county to come also....so maybe 3 more entries see ya at the track :tire: SHERMAN :tire:


Sherman.....
Why in the world should we call them E.D.M....... Which stands for Eastern Dirt Modified..... They dont run them like this in the East.... We do it in California! Its time Cali took some credit for having so many great racers and racecars!

California Dirt Modifieds!!!:greenflag::whiteflag::checkeredflag:

[Matt Murphy]

102 entries! We broke the century mark, There are still so many guys I have not heard from. This is gonna be off the hook. Please check out the CVR Rcedayhedule thread, so you guys know whats going to happen at the race.

Matt

[thegman77g]

:checkeredflag:Tony Mills is running 10.5 sprint instead of Nitro sprint:checkeredflag:

[vwbob16]

Matt Scratch me for LM I will only be running nitro Sprint Bob Bradshaw

[Matt Murphy]

Bob, how bout with 2 more weeks.... you gonna bring out that Late Model of yours? We want to battle with ya!

Matt

[Matt Murphy]

Ok guys, I know the reschedule has made it so some of you may not be able to attend the CVR race, but it may have also allowed others to come that were not going to make it. If either one of these scenarios describes you, let me know, so I can update the list, and plan the raceday schedules accordingly.

Thanks guys!

Matt

[vwbob16]

Bob, how bout with 2 more weeks.... you gonna bring out that Late Model of yours? We want to battle with ya!

Matt

No I sold it and switched to 1/10 sprints

[Matt Murphy]

Well, guess we won't battle in Late Model....but we can battle in Nitro Sprint now!

Matt

[Tim Copp]

Add one more to 1/8lm

[Matt Murphy]

You mean yourself Tim?

[Tim Copp]

The Green hornet will be wheeled by myself (thanks Roland)

[Matt Murphy]

So wait, does Rolland have 2 8th scales? Cause if not that means add one more for 8th scale, after you erase one...LOL

[RollandMathers]

Tim will be racing my Hot Bodies D8. I will be racing my Losi. So add 1 please:beer:

[Matt Murphy]

Awesome! Tim is gonna become the green hornet..... Since Rolland has outgrown the comic-book theme....LOL.

Rolland, with new colors and a new number.... should be a good year..... besides, nobody wins with the number 1 unless they earned that number by being the champ!

Guess Brandon Emmett never got the memo......LOL!!!!!

Matt

[emmettracing#1]

Awesome! Tim is gonna become the green hornet..... Since Rolland has outgrown the comic-book theme....LOL.

Rolland, with new colors and a new number.... should be a good year..... besides, nobody wins with the number 1 unless they earned that number by being the champ!

Guess Brandon Emmett never got the memo......LOL!!!!!

Matt

The number was handed down to me from my grandfather.lol and anyways what's up with "x" seriously pick a real number!!!! Lol

[Matt Murphy]

Brandon,
"X" is a number. It is the Roman numeral for "10". "X" has been around alot longer than "1" has.....Roman numerals were used much early than our current number system...... So dont think of "X" as not being a number, think of it as my old school number...... And for the record, your Grandpa may have earned the Number 1..... but you have not..... LOL

And at the 2009 Open Wheel Championships, the number "X" ended up with a Championship, a runner up spot, and a 5 th place run. Not so much for the number "1".

X is different..... I understand how someone can be scared of different, and new things. Its ok... we will take it easy on you. However...... in 2011, ONLY series Champions will be allowed to run #1.

And before you start knocking on my colors, my cars glow in the dark..... everyone knows where my car is on the track...... Your black and red....... just blends in, so if ya get smushed like a bug, you may wanna rethink your colors, and numbers.....LOL

Matt

[Matt Murphy]

Some heavy hitters will be at CVR running 10.5 late model now... class is filling up quite well!

[thegman77g]

jojo owens will be there in the lm maybe if i can get a 10in body from someone or edm body

[ezimmerman]

I will be racing in the 10.5 sprint class.

[Tim Copp]

Ok looks like it open smack talk time (all In FUN GUYS)




And before you start knocking on my colors, my cars glow in the dark..... everyone knows where my car is on the track...... Your black and red....... just blends in, so if ya get smushed like a bug, you may wanna rethink your colors, and numbers.....LOL

Matt

Would that be BEHIND Rolland and the sub Green horrent??;);)

[Ernie]

I will be raceing 10.5 sprint

[Matt Murphy]

Well, I will just say that everyone will be able to find my cars on the track, who it is behind....only time will tell. I am just hoping to beat half the field.... with the quality of racers coming out, I will be content with that.

California Dirt Oval Racers are in for a show! I don't think guys realize just how many fast guys are in California. If you are expecting to win, you may wanna just aim for the A-Main.... I am trying to be real in my expectations, because we have some steep competition!

Now, smack talking.... I will likely be behind Brandons red and black turd.... before I lap him!

Matt

[Matt Murphy]

115 racers, not counting the CVR Locals who will just show up..... and any of the guys trying to be stealthy, and not let people know they are coming.... Like Mishaga??? LOL JK.

Matt

[PBR Allstar]

Some heavy hitters will be at CVR running 10.5 late model now... class is filling up quite well!


I consider myself more of a "light slapper"

[Matt Murphy]

WOW...IMA let that one go.... but someone will rip you apart I am sure. But wj=ho will it be... Ford...thanks for the killer setup... my money is on Jason rippin you a new one...LOL

Matt

[tommy2112]

put down mel fisher for 1/8 late model

[jojoowens31]

jojo owens will not be racing nitro sprint nor will garrett mills ... garrett is racing electric sprint and u have jojo in the lm already

[PBR Allstar]

WOW...IMA let that one go.... but someone will rip you apart I am sure. But wj=ho will it be... Ford...thanks for the killer setup... my money is on Jason rippin you a new one...LOL

Matt

Yeah, that one was kind of a "gimmie" for you guys. I have been known to keep that pimp hand strong on occasion though. Jason's just lucky he's not running electric latemodel, or else I'd have to umm.... uhhh.....

[Jason Smith]

I'll be running Matt's extra latemodel!:eek: So bring it on PBR LOL:thumbsup:
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[Matt Murphy]

Well.... I do have an extra Late Model...

[cary]

I'm in latemodel be in on friday in the AM along with Doogie

[PBR Allstar]

The car is loaded up with tables, cars, and smack down! See you guys tomorrow!

[Gonzothegr81]

Looks like we are ready to race this weekend come on out and have some fun.

[Gonzothegr81]

Here are some pics of the track me Brandon and the CVR crew have bin working hard to have a good track see you this weekend.

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[Gonzothegr81]

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[P Rod]

SWEET :thumbsup: Looks great Ruben,Brandon and the rest of the crew. Nice Job


Phil

Brentwood Racing Club

[Mr45]

Looks great guy!!! Thanks for all the hard work all you guys did on the track!!!

[Gonzothegr81]

The track is ready I will see you all out there.

[jasoncantrell]

Everything looks great Brandon.The track looks killer ans looks like Murphy and Webster has put in there work on gettin sponsorship.Good luck to all and see you@ the haven race# 3.I will be runnin 10.5 sprint car.Look out C-Main:trophy_bronze::blackflag::blackflag::blackfla g:

[cary]

hay that was a fun time thanks Matt and all you guys for the hard work it was fun and a good show all and all

but the only thing we need to get numbers on the cars or some thing this is for you guys in the 1/8 LM B main you know how you are cant even line up right. I hope we all can do a better job next time that was lame man!! we all have done this before it's not that hard

[vwbob16]

Yah I had a great time Thanks go out to Matt And all of the people that worked hard to make this happen. But in the 15 years that I have been RC racing I have never seen such a poor Race Director I saw many times that he started races with guys not lined up correctly I realize that there were a few problems with the computer and so on but to just start races with cars positioned incorrectly is not fair. Next time to make things a little easier we can make sure everyone is in the rite spot by having them stop on the back straight and do a position check before starting a parade lap then go 2 or 3 laps and then throw the green also instead of just telling the other drivers to follow behind a certain color car (which some guys couldnt figure out due the fact that they are colorblind) make sure that everyone Knows who the leader is before they even hit the track.


See ya All next time Bob

[gatepro]

hay that was a fun time thanks Matt and all you guys for the hard work it was fun and a good show all and all

but the only thing we need to get numbers on the cars or some thing this is for you guys in the 1/8 LM B main you know how you are cant even line up right. I hope we all can do a better job next time that was lame man!! we all have done this before it's not that hard

since cary is beign so nice I guess i will say it, Pink and Black car learn how to start a race, you can't run 80mph on pace laps, if you would have just slowed to an idle on the back stretch we could have all lined up and been on our way. Put a number on your car eveyone can read, so the race director isn't telling everyone" find the pink and black car" there were 4 black cars out there for christ sake. That should be a notice to everyone racing, RACE CARS HAVE FRICKEN NUMBERS PEOPLE!!!!!!!

[Jason Smith]

Having numbers on the cars is cool and we should all have them, but in reality it's not a rule that people have to run them....so not all racers will have them. It is up to the race director to control such situations and this race director did a poor job of that.

I don't think we will have to worry about having the same race director for the remainder of the series.

Thank you Matt and the whole CVR crew for working so hard to put this race on. I had a great time and got to meet some cool new people:thumbsup:
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[gatepro]

Having numbers on the cars is cool and we should all have them, but in reality it's not a rule that people have to run them....so not all racers will have them. It is up to the race director to control such situations and this race director did a poor job of that.

I don't think we will have to worry about having the same race director for the remainder of the series.

Thank you Matt and the whole CVR crew for working so hard to put this race on. I had a great time and got to meet some cool new people:thumbsup:

Jason, I agree with the number deal, I know the numbers wouldn't solve everything, I actually thought it was the race directors fault also, i just didn't want to look like i was bashing anyone imparticluar, I know that Matt will make it right for the next race, there was some awsome racing, but it would have been even better if he would have took control of many of the situations that arose. The race director rules the race track, if guys can't do their job and line up right then he can kick em to the rear. Anyhow, I thought is was still an awsome race weekend, for the first event ever for the staff promoting this deal it was excellent.

[emmettracing#1]

Thanks for coming out and I apologize for the issues we had! I hate for other people to read about one bad thing that happened! Over all it was kick ass and the time of my life, so thanks again to you guys that supported us ! P.s I'm having my baby soon so won't see you guys till brentwood but I can't wait you guys are awesome and I thank you again for a great time!

[gatepro]

Thanks for coming out and I apologize for the issues we had! I hate for other people to read about one bad thing that happened! Over all it was kick ass and the time of my life, so thanks again to you guys that supported us ! P.s I'm having my baby soon so won't see you guys till brentwood but I can't wait you guys are awesome and I thank you again for a great time!

Brandon you worked your ass off all weekend, we all appreciate the work you did and it was a great success, on a side note, you didn't look preganant ROFLMAO!!!! good luck with the new baby !!!!!

[Tim Copp]

since cary is beign so nice I guess i will say it, Pink and Black car learn how to start a race, you can't run 80mph on pace laps, if you would have just slowed to an idle on the back stretch we could have all lined up and been on our way. Put a number on your car eveyone can read, so the race director isn't telling everyone" find the pink and black car" there were 4 black cars out there for christ sake. That should be a notice to everyone racing, RACE CARS HAVE FRICKEN NUMBERS PEOPLE!!!!!!!
Sorry to tell you the Pink and Black car did just fine the 1st 2 starts it was the race Director and laptop that made you guys have to restart 5 times and the pink and black car was off the track for the last 3 restarts as he flamed out and his starter box was in his pits so the last 3 restarts there was NO pink and Black car to line up behind something the RACE DIRECTOR did not see, He started the race from the pits on the last start.

[Matt Murphy]

Well guys, either way, passing blame is unnecessary.... nothing positive will come out of it. I take full responsibility, and I apologize for it.

Next race, pit men will hold the cars on the back straight and top the cars off, in the correct order, there will be a signal to the pit guys to release the cars, and off of turn 4, they will take the green. only gotta go 1/4 of a lap in line. If we cant accomplish that, we will do standing starts, with a down and quiet.

Matt

[tommy2112]

Well guys, either way, passing blame is unnecessary.... nothing positive will come out of it. I take full responsibility, and I apologize for it.

Next race, pit men will hold the cars on the back straight and top the cars off, in the correct order, there will be a signal to the pit guys to release the cars, and off of turn 4, they will take the green. only gotta go 1/4 of a lap in line. If we cant accomplish that, we will do standing starts, with a down and quiet.

Matt

i like that idea

[Matt Murphy]

If the racers cant get that right, we are in trouble..... LOL

Matt