Whats Everybody running

[voodoo427]

What classes is everybody going to race this year??

I will be running

Electric Sprint (customworks)
13.5 latemodel(Havoc)
NitroSprint (tmr or dremelbilt)
1/8th Latemodel (kyosho)

[Eugene Ryder]

Hmmmm, let's see.

Nitro sprint........Weapon
Electric Sprint..........Havoc SC
1/8th LM........Jammin

weekly......

then I might run the Buggy type EDM cars @ Bill's and Smac Trac when they show up. Yes....with a Tekin system.

See ya @ Bill's soon Charles. Talked to Bill last night about opening soon. Updates coming soon. Stay tuned.

E

[voodoo427]

i foresee a dremel bilt project coming soon im really liking the design of this havoc!!!

[sps3172]

Hmmmm, let's see.

Nitro sprint........Weapon
Electric Sprint..........Havoc SC
1/8th LM........Jammin

weekly......

then I might run the Buggy type EDM cars @ Bill's and Smac Trac when they show up. Yes....with a Tekin system.

See ya @ Bill's soon Charles. Talked to Bill last night about opening soon. Updates coming soon. Stay tuned.

E

Eugene....make sure you bring that 1/8th LM with you if you make the occasional trip to STL.

I'm planing on hitting Big Bill's several times this summer with my 1/8th LM. I also have a Putnam car....I guess 13.5 LM would be the class for that up there?

- SS

[spdrcer1]

i am running the 13.5 latemodel(rydahman save that speed control for me) and electric sprint..both dyno-tech.. gonna be a great year boys!

[Fineousfingers]

Hoo Boy! I'm ready.

CW Outlaw electric sprint
Havoc SC electric sprint
CW GBX Intimidator 13.5 late model

How about the Losi Late Models? My daughter Shandon has had a blast with them indoors this winter... I'm thinking spiky tires will make 'em good on the dirt.

question: is the 13.5 late model class running CW Tires again, or buggy tires.

Jim

[BigT]

Here we go.

Havoc sc electric
Klein nitro sc
Havoc 13.5 Lm
and maybe a 1/18 latemodel on foams????


Tom

[voodoo427]

For the 4 track series its the cw tires but ive heard we can run buggy tires and bigger lipos at bills weekly races.

Hoo Boy! I'm ready.

CW Outlaw electric sprint
Havoc SC electric sprint
CW GBX Intimidator 13.5 late model

How about the Losi Late Models? My daughter Shandon has had a blast with them indoors this winter... I'm thinking spiky tires will make 'em good on the dirt.

question: is the 13.5 late model class running CW Tires again, or buggy tires.

Jim

[CShearburn]

For the 4 track series its the cw tires but ive heard we can run buggy tires and bigger lipos at bills weekly races.

I seriously hope that is just a rumor and not actually true, or I hope it is a completely separate class altogether. It sounds like the 4-track series 13.5 class is going to be pretty big this year, so I don't see why the same rules can't be enforced at the weekly shows at each track.

The 4 tracks in the series should use the series rules for the 4 main classes (Electric Sprint, Nitro Sprint, 13.5 LM, and Nitro Truck) to keep the uniformity that everyone was looking for when creating the series in the first place.

[voodoo427]

i can see that but what about the guys that dont plan on running in the series at all. are we to tell them they have to buy another 90$ battery because the ones they have arent allowed? i know right now i dont have a extra 90$ to spend on top of the $2-300 to get my sprintcar going also...


P.s. it was just something i had heard a couple months ago im sure Eugene or Bill will let it be known what all is legal this year soon.

[CShearburn]

i can see that but what about the guys that dont plan on running in the series at all. are we to tell them they have to buy another 90$ battery because the ones they have arent allowed? i know right now i dont have a extra 90$ to spend on top of the $2-300 to get my sprintcar going also...

Like I said, it should be a separate class. The track owners agreed on a set of rules for the 13.5 LM class which was CW tires and the 3200 Li-Po (similar to the DODC rules only not forcing use of the SPEC DODC 3200 li-po). I understand that there may be a few that don't have a 3200 or a set of CW tires, but what about the majority that bought the stuff to conform to the series rules? Now if they plan to run a weekly race at one of the tracks on the series, they either have to buy a new battery and probably a set of tires to keep up, or find somewhere else to race.

Again, I don't see why there needs to be different rules for these classes at each track. Local Option classes are one thing, but to completely change the rules on the standard series classes doesn't make sense. At least not for a track that is in the series.

[jenzorace]

Let em run buggy tires. So when it comes time for running cw tires, they will be out to lunch.

[BigT]

Here we go with the RULES!!!

[jenzorace]

[quote=voodoo427;297149]i can see that but what about the guys that dont plan on running in the series at all. are we to tell them they have to buy another 90$ battery because the ones they have arent allowed? i know right now i dont have a extra 90$ to spend on top of the $2-300 to get my sprintcar going also...


You can find hardly used 3200 28c lipos on hobbytalk all the time for $40 to $60

[Eugene Ryder]

Hot off the press.....yes. Yes what you ask? Yes Bill is allowing buggy tires and bigger li-po's int he WEEKLY 13.5 class. It has nothing to do with me, I'm not running this class. Bill said a lot of the guys interested in the class last year were asking if they could run the other tires. So, if you have a 13.5 motor and any li-po up to 5400 mAh and 40C or less, you can run that class.

Just remember, like Jenzo says, "let em, cause when they run the CW tires they will be out to lunch". It's true, the cars will not handle anything like they do with buggy tires. The 4 track series races will require everyone to run the CW street track tires and Novak DODC li-po/13.5 combo. But if you have an old 13.5 and some 18C li-po left over from last year or something and want to run another class.......come on out.

I doubt this will concern more than 2-3 people and as most remember from last year, the 13.5 class with street tracks went 35 laps @ Bill's. That is only 1-2 laps off the mod sprint class or the nitro sprints. Bill will encourage guys to try the CW tires so they are familiar with them come time for the 4 track series.

I do know Bill has a 13.5 car for this year and I believe he will be running the CW tires weekly........

Hope this helps......See you all soon

[voodoo427]

had no problems with the cw tires just didnt feel like buying a new lipo till the time came when i needed it. :) which is i believe june 6th.

Cant wait to get some track time...... specially to whip on tom in electric sprint (j/k man) is it may yet

[Eugene Ryder]

You can find hardly used 3200 28c lipos on hobbytalk all the time for $40 to $60

Heck, Jenzo prolly has more than one.....lol

And if I was looking into the class.....on a limited budget......I would consider that option for sure. Even the 3200 mAh 28C's that are DODC legal would work for most other classes like even the electric sprint. I hardly ever put more than 2500-2800 mAh back into my batteries after a race. Just something else to think about.

[voodoo427]

hmm maybe i can trade one of these losis for the smcs

[Eugene Ryder]

hmm maybe i can trade one of these losis for the smcs

Knowing you Charles, you will find someone to trade you.....LOL

[BigT]

c'mon voodoo bring it!!

[voodoo427]

hahaha.... looked at a couple on hobby talk which would work for around here but if i want to goto the open wheel etc then id be stuck getting a battery again....

waiting to hear back from my buddy from new baden about his tig welder then it would mean no more buying small canisters of gas eugene. i think its time for another dremelbilt nitrosprint :)

[CShearburn]

Hot off the press.....yes. Yes what you ask? Yes Bill is allowing buggy tires and bigger li-po's int he WEEKLY 13.5 class. It has nothing to do with me, I'm not running this class. Bill said a lot of the guys interested in the class last year were asking if they could run the other tires. So, if you have a 13.5 motor and any li-po up to 5400 mAh and 40C or less, you can run that class.

Just remember, like Jenzo says, "let em, cause when they run the CW tires they will be out to lunch". It's true, the cars will not handle anything like they do with buggy tires. The 4 track series races will require everyone to run the CW street track tires and Novak DODC li-po/13.5 combo. But if you have an old 13.5 and some 18C li-po left over from last year or something and want to run another class.......come on out.

I doubt this will concern more than 2-3 people and as most remember from last year, the 13.5 class with street tracks went 35 laps @ Bill's. That is only 1-2 laps off the mod sprint class or the nitro sprints. Bill will encourage guys to try the CW tires so they are familiar with them come time for the 4 track series.

I do know Bill has a 13.5 car for this year and I believe he will be running the CW tires weekly........

Hope this helps......See you all soon

Granted I don't know how much of an advantage, if any, the buggy tires would have over the CW tires. Depends more in the condition of the track on that day. But I do know in a 13.5 class that the 40C batteries will blow away any other li-po. Its a disadvantage that would be hard to overcome. If 2 - 3 people don't care about running the series or getting the proper equipment to run under the series rules thats fine. But the series 13.5 LM class should be offerred by itself and not combined with a completely different class.

I would just like to see some standardization amongst the dirt oval tracks, particularly the ones sharing the 4-track series. If the tracks are going to agree on a set of rules for the series, they should use the same rules for the weekly racing. Again, a local option class is fine as it doesn't (shouldn't) conflict with the already established class.

And for whats its worth, I wish the LM class ran buggy tires and allowed rears to be mounted on truck fronts for the front. They would look more realistic and probably drive pretty good. My opinion is tracks across the country should strive to make ALL classes more realistic looking. But since this isn't the rules for the series, we should follow those rules and try and make it work.

[jenzorace]

Oh No!! Bills running 13.5 this year.. This class really started to show some promise last year. We all know this is LATEMODEL COUNTRY!!!!:beer::D And repeat!!!!

[voodoo427]

so then my 20C lipo im wanting to run weekly would be the disadvantage yet somones going to complain over that when thier running a 28c lipo?

Granted I don't know how much of an advantage, if any, the buggy tires would have over the CW tires. Depends more in the condition of the track on that day. But I do know in a 13.5 class that the 40C batteries will blow away any other li-po. Its a disadvantage that would be hard to overcome.

[jenzorace]

Granted I don't know how much of an advantage, if any, the buggy tires would have over the CW tires. Depends more in the condition of the track on that day. But I do know in a 13.5 class that the 40C batteries will blow away any other li-po. Its a disadvantage that would be hard to overcome. If 2 - 3 people don't care about running the series or getting the proper equipment to run under the series rules thats fine. But the series 13.5 LM class should be offerred by itself and not combined with a completely different class.

I would just like to see some standardization amongst the dirt oval tracks, particularly the ones sharing the 4-track series. If the tracks are going to agree on a set of rules for the series, they should use the same rules for the weekly racing. Again, a local option class is fine as it doesn't (shouldn't) conflict with the already established class.

And for whats its worth, I wish the LM class ran buggy tires and allowed rears to be mounted on truck fronts for the front. They would look more realistic and probably drive pretty good. My opinion is tracks across the country should strive to make ALL classes more realistic looking. But since this isn't the rules for the series, we should follow those rules and try and make it work.
Have you run the new 3200 40c batteries? I have on carpet, my lap times didnt get any better. I cant tell any difference. You can ask any of the pancar guys i have picked up my game from the previous years. There so jelous they made a video of us!!

[Eugene Ryder]

Granted I don't know how much of an advantage, if any, the buggy tires would have over the CW tires. Depends more in the condition of the track on that day. But I do know in a 13.5 class that the 40C batteries will blow away any other li-po. Its a disadvantage that would be hard to overcome. If 2 - 3 people don't care about running the series or getting the proper equipment to run under the series rules thats fine. But the series 13.5 LM class should be offerred by itself and not combined with a completely different class.



Again.....I doubt we run into that problem. I'm sure the first night we have 6, 13.5LM's show up with buggy tires and 10 with the CW tires......we'd be happy to split em up.....but until that happens, lets not worry to much. I hope there are 50 of the 13.5 LM every week @ every track in Illinois. Realistic? prolly not.

And I am all for realistic.......I mean I pull more wheelies in my nitro sprint that most WoO cars do. lol. I vote for the 13.5LM class to run the 1/10th Slider REAR tires all the way around! I put 4 of them under my LM body and it was COOL!

[Eugene Ryder]

so then my 20C lipo im wanting to run weekly would be the disadvantage yet somones going to complain over that when thier running a 28c lipo?

Now there is a good point.

[voodoo427]

Have you run the new 3200 40c batteries? I have on carpet, my lap times didnt get any better. I cant tell any difference. You can ask any of the pancar guys i have picked up my game from the previous years. There so jelous they made a video of us!!


same here locally the 40c has more initial punch but they cant sustain that all the way thru the qualifiers or mains.

[jenzorace]

Im saying the first 3 laps. If you dont lay it down then, its a waste of time.

[Eugene Ryder]

Does anyone know how many times, in a 4 minute race, that a 13.5 motor will draw 128 amps?

3200, 40C would be 3.2 X 40 right? = 128.

Seems like a lot of amp draw........you would think they would get 300 degrees at that amp draw.

[voodoo427]

yep jenzo.. ive heard a rumor though that the maxamps arent really 35 or 40 c and that the trinity isnt also. no clue how true those rumors are tho but i know my lil 22c smc has sustained its power all thru the qualifiers while the 40c trinity and 35c max amps lost all thier punch 2 minutes into the race.
Im saying the first 3 laps. If you dont lay it down then, its a waste of time.

[CShearburn]

Yes a 20c battery should be a disadvantage to a 28c, but then again until the 40c batteries came out I didn't see much difference from one li-po to another. Reguardless, the fact that someone may own a 20C vs everyone else running 28C is irrelevant. We're talking about having standardized rules across all the tracks, particularly the ones sharing the same series. My point is the track owners agreed on a set of rules for the series, and for whatever reason those same rules can't be used for the weekly racing?

Now whether or not one manufacturer is different from another is an entirely different topic. You say a 3200 40c li-po isn't any faster, but the rule is up to 6000, not 3200. I've never seen a 3200 40C run, but I know what a 5000+ 40C can do, and it IS an advantage in stock (13.5) classes.

Yes 50+ Late models would be cool. The electric sprint class was getting close last year, so the potential for a class to reach that is there.

[voodoo427]

where did you see the 5000mah 40c battery have a advantage cuz noone else has seen it around here. they have 0 advantage after the first couple laps because they pull more amperage and a couple laps in that punch is gone. if your that far down in a few laps that you cant catch back up then its not the batteries that need redone.:checkeredflag:

[Gary]

I will be running

Electric Sprint (customworks)
13.5 late model (customworks)
Maybe Nitro Truck (Losi XXX-NT)

Just sucks I will be out of town Labor Day Weekend

[MiniT21]

I'll have to agree with shearburn on the battery deal... I've ran smc 28c packs with a 13.5 and my TP 40c with a 17.5 and both cars are very close on power. If i had to say so the advantage goes to the 17.5 car. This is in offroad, But i can never tell a drop off in power until 10 minutes or so. Consistently clears all the jumps at the local track. 40c is a huge difference, if you can't tell a difference there is something wrong somewhere.

[BigT]

I think it boils down to what will keep the doors open if the racers don't show the doors will close. So if the track has a different rule than the series so what show up race have fun. Personally I think the rule issuse is OUT OF CONTROL...


Tom

[voodoo427]

Rules!!! we dont need no rules!!! lmao come on april 11th

I think it boils down to what will keep the doors open if the racers don't show the doors will close. So if the track has a different rule than the series so what show up race have fun. Personally I think the rule issuse is OUT OF CONTROL...


Tom

[Jackl]

I'll be running a new lightweight version of the Raze with my BB Mod's OS .28.

With a little luck (and if Speed is willing to help me again with car setup) I also plan to run my Dynotech DC5/OS powered in nitro sprint.

Look out Brad and Bill here I come...

Ha!

jack

[BigT]

jack, remember these are cars NOT boats!! LMAO

[voodoo427]

Lmao!

[Jackl]

Big T.

If the track gets wet... you never know what I might run..

Ha!

jack

[Eugene Ryder]

Jack, it was last April 19th when your buddy put his LM through Bills fence, lol

[Jackl]

Yep, and Nate is getting her ready again to come down with us on the 11th...

can't wait.

boats this weekend and dirt oval the next....

hope the track is dry this time....

ha!

[voodoo427]

its getting close!!! if things keep up i may have the electric sprinter ready to go cept for wheels haha

[BigT]

9 days Boys

[2fast4you]

Duratraxs raze 1/8 LM
O'Donnell 1/8 LM
Duratraxs evader bomber

[spdrcer1]

3 days!!!!!!!!!!!

[voodoo427]

weathers looking good also if its not too muddy already!!!

[voodoo427]

2 more days!!!

[ed gaines]

Wheres everybody racing this weekend?:checkeredflag:

[Eugene Ryder]

weathers looking good also if its not too muddy already!!!

It's not to muddy Charles.......track looks great......Gonna drag it again tomorrow and get the top real good......I heard Malicoat might show.....LOL

Wheres everybody racing this weekend?:checkeredflag:

You thinking about coming up Ed? I think 2-3 others from your area are headed this way.....hope to see you there.......track should be ready by noon.....

[voodoo427]

awesome ive got two more tires to finish gluing and the l8m is ready to go. may need your help getting the engine tuned eugene.

[ed gaines]

Yes Eugene,First time do they run LM electric an is it stock or mod?

[Eugene Ryder]

Yes Eugene,First time do they run LM electric an is it stock or mod?

I think most will be running the electric LM's with the 13.5....but this week is just for fun.....run what you want......see ya there

[jenzorace]

If i dont have to work il be there.:D

[BigT]

I'll be there, gonna be finishing my cars at the track!! Who does that sound like????

[voodoo427]

like a repeat?

[Eugene Ryder]

I'll be there, gonna be finishing my cars at the track!! Who does that sound like????

Easy there tiger.......I might have done that once......ok twice. LOL

2 More days right Big T?

[BigT]

Yep... LOL

[spdrcer1]

ahhhhhhhhhh! i cant wait!!!!!!

[BigT]

:whiteflag: 1 TOGO BOYS!!!

[Eugene Ryder]

Oh man......I hate to.......but.......well, do you know this mother nature lady? Well, she don't want us to play......she dumped about an inch on Broadwell last night and it doesn't look like the track will be ready for laps tomorrow......

The top has a lot of loose dirt and its all mushy and wet. Looks like you will have to wait another week......sorry guys......talked to Bill about an hour ago and that is what he said.

I know a lot of guy were planning on coming over but I guess you have time to make new plans.....So next week we will try again.....

Don't forget, Allen's is running their 1/18LM race next weekend also but for the guys that don't have an 1/18th LM....come on out.

See ya next saturday.

[spdrcer1]

oh thats sucks ass! oh well what ya gonna do..it is what it is

[jenzorace]

Damn it man.. Ive got the day off!!:(

[Ben Giles]

Jenzo with the day off NOT A GOOD THING!!! LOL LOL.

Ben Giles

[jenzorace]

Went anyway to shop at bills.:D

[msantello]

Where's ya'all Track located? Also ya'all run a Tire or Engine rule at Bills? I run a 1/8 Latemodel by OFNA. Got a .28 LRP, Novarossi .21 Spec Motor and a .28 Novarossi.

[jenzorace]

Illinois. Cmon up!

[ed gaines]

I plan on coming up Saturday,Whats a good starting point to gear a 13.5 in LM.Its a orion motor. Thanks

[rced]

Where's ya'all Track located? Also ya'all run a Tire or Engine rule at Bills? I run a 1/8 Latemodel by OFNA. Got a .28 LRP, Novarossi .21 Spec Motor and a .28 Novarossi.

The directions and rules are located here: http://www.bigbillsrcraceway.com/

[rodg]

electric sprint.should be fun.

[jenzorace]

What are you doin up at this hour? What kind of sprint did you get?

[JasonAB25]

electric sprint.should be fun.

:) :checkeredflag:

[rodg]

outlaw.hunting set ups

[JasonAB25]

outlaw.hunting set ups

Haha, love seeing you back at it Rod. Hopefully i'll get to race with ya a few times this summer.

[voodoo427]

4 more days

[Mr.Wolfman]

knew that ya could not resist the dirt oval bug there Rod. see ya at the tracks.

Wolfman

[Phil B]

Hi there Wolfman, got my L8ight last weekend, now if I can find some more money I will get a sprintcar to come race with you!

[spdrcer1]

how is the weather down there this week?

[jenzorace]

Hi there Wolfman, got my L8ight last weekend, now if I can find some more money I will get a sprintcar to come race with you! Phil in ILLINOIS??:D

[Phil B]

Phil in ILLINOIS??:D

Hey, it's happened before!

[AJS]

Rod G and Phil B, on the dirt, you know this thing just might take off. LOL

[jenzorace]

Kinda like that brushless thing Huh!!:D

[rodg]

wolfie aj jenzo i got myself motivated this summer.should be lots of fun.really looking forward to racing with everyone.

[AJS]

Rod you mean kicking everyone's butt. LOL

[Ken D]

10-4 on the butt kicking, Damm Aj, it's 3:30 in the morning - - :D

[AJS]

I know, I couldn't sleep. LOL

[bluef250]

well it looks like mother nature is going to piss on my racing again forcast is 60% chance of rain:mad:

[BigT]

that depends on what tv station your watching?

[Big bill]

OK, Here we go the track is ready all we need is racers. 30% chance of rain Sat. Night. 70% Sunday. Racing starts at 4:00 pm. Track opens when you get here! Big Bill

[jenzorace]

Im ready!!!!!:D

[spdrcer1]

ITS RACE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:checkeredflag::checkeredflag:: checkeredflag::checkeredflag::checkeredflag::check eredflag::checkeredflag::checkeredflag::thumbsup:: thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::beer::trop hy_bronze::trophy_bronze::trophy_bronze::trophy_br onze::trophy_bronze:

[Ben Giles]

Packing my car up right now see you around 11:00.

Ben

[Eugene Ryder]

Headed to Broadwell now, see everyone there.

[Eugene Ryder]

Jenzo is the new king of Broadwell in the 13.5 LM class. New track record.....

35, 4:00.41

Good job bud....car was looking good.

See ya all on the 2nd of May.

[jenzorace]

Thanks man. What a fun day of racin!:D Thanks to big bill and the girls for going to wendys!

[rodg]

Very racy mr jennings.I wish i could have stayed longer to watch you run more.great time

[jenzorace]

Thanks Rod. The track was killer for the 3rd qualifier. It was a little to slick for the main.

[BigT]

Want to say thanks to Bill and his famliy for eveything yesterday. Also Eugene, and the boys at gfrp for the pointers on my sc.

Tom mc.

[spdrcer1]

Not many people there this week but still had awesome time! Cant wait till the second!! Thanks to bill ..rydaman.. And everyone..it was fun