Losi Mini Late Model

[ThisDougsForU]

I'm a relative newbie to Smac track (been back into the hobby and racing at SMAC for about 2 months now) and I've really enjoyed it. Well run program and nice, helpful people all around. I've known that smac was changing to dirt oval soooo.........last night I snagged a mini-late model from Checkered Flag! I've only raced offroad since I started (been off and on in the hobby since '95) so I really don't know what to expect, but I figured for under 200 dollars why the hell not ?

What kind of charger are you guys using for the little NIMH battery ? I see it's too small for my Duratrax Onyx and stock wall charger takes over 3 hours to charge!

I'm looking forward to turning left on Weds nights with the rest of you guys!

Thanks,
Doug

[MK Race]

Hey Doug, you'll love the little Latemodel. I have 2 that we are going to race, one for me and one for my son.

We use a Pit Bull by Comp Electronics. I have been told to charge at anywhere from 1 amp to 3 amps. I charge at 2 amps. You might want to pick up a couple packs of Deans connectors though.

[ThisDougsForU]

I picked up a set of Deans connectors but when I saw how small the wires were I wondered if it was ok to put Deans on em'. So I'm good to put them on the ESC and battery ?

[overlandovalracer]

definately put the deans plugs on. Yo might want to check out some Duratrax 1600 mah nimah batteries as they have WAY more punch than the stock battery. I might know a guy that has some good used ones for sale. After you burn up the stock motor, just plan on buying the Castle Creations 4200kv system. That is the spec system we all run. Just to avoid confusion, brushed & brushless do usually run togather, it's just that the brushless is much less hassle.

[paco62]

You might check and see if you can get an adapter that will work with your Onyx. I bought a wire with the same end as my receiver battery when I had a nitro car and it was only a few bucks. Mark Twain would probably be able to help.

[Doogie]

Do you guys use the regular Deans plugs or the Deans micro plugs for the small batteries?

[CShearburn]

Do you guys use the regular Deans plugs or the Deans micro plugs for the small batteries?


Most guys up here have been using the regular Dean's plugs. The micro ones are a PIA (small)... plus using the regular ones is more standard to everyone's chargers from the 1/10 scale batteries.

[ThisDougsForU]

Thanks guys, I'll put the normal deans plugs on the car & battery tomorrow.

[ThisDougsForU]

What shock oil weight are you guys running in these ?

[notSoMiniT23]

definately put the deans plugs on. Yo might want to check out some Duratrax 1600 mah nimah batteries as they have WAY more punch than the stock battery. I might know a guy that has some good used ones for sale. After you burn up the stock motor, just plan on buying the Castle Creations 4200kv system. That is the spec system we all run. Just to avoid confusion, brushed & brushless do usually run togather, it's just that the brushless is much less hassle.

jim, i need a battery or two.

[overlandovalracer]

jim, i need a battery or two.

check pms

[ThisDougsForU]

Racing in the mini class thus far has been awesome. Every race it seems like any car is capable of TQing. After blowing my motor after just two weeks of racing I'm going to bite the bullet and just go brushless right now. What kind of pinion are you brushless guys running ?

[racen4]

a big thanks to Chad for letting me use his car sunday.:thumbsup: this is a fun class the cars drive pretty good and have pleanty of speed. im realy thinking of buying one for a 2nd class to run. and ill tell you what they look so good on the track

c ya
Randy

[rccars4scott]

I had really good luck over the winter with the Mamba Pro ESC and the 4200KV motor. Temps were low and it was considerably more linear in it's power delivery than the other sensorless systems I have used. I think it's about $125 for the ESC and motor. I ran mine for 15 race days and it never missed a beat. Good luck.

Scott

[low81ryder]

Racing in the mini class thus far has been awesome. Every race it seems like any car is capable of TQing. After blowing my motor after just two weeks of racing I'm going to bite the bullet and just go brushless right now. What kind of pinion are you brushless guys running ? Get a 50 and a 54 spur. then get 21 to 23 pinion gears and you will have it pretty well covered. I think Cliff had a 23/50 in his but im but im not sure. Cya .....Mouse

[MK Race]

Hey Doug, after my son and I went through about 8 motors I switched to the brushless. Rob Fayant's car is really faster than mine and he's still running a brush motor.

Go to Mark Twain or Checkered Flag and see if they have the 4200 Mamba. I'll be there Wednesday with the team car. My son raced it on carpet last Saturday, so it's my turn Wednesday.

I'm running the 21/50 gears on my car.

[MK Race]

a big thanks to Chad for letting me use his car sunday.:thumbsup: this is a fun class the cars drive pretty good and have pleanty of speed. im realy thinking of buying one for a 2nd class to run. and ill tell you what they look so good on the track

c ya
Randy


WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did Randy go and who posted that?

[ThisDougsForU]

Hey Doug, after my son and I went through about 8 motors I switched to the brushless. Rob Fayant's car is really faster than mine and he's still running a brush motor.

Go to Mark Twain or Checkered Flag and see if they have the 4200 Mamba. I'll be there Wednesday with the team car. My son raced it on carpet last Saturday, so it's my turn Wednesday.

I'm running the 21/50 gears on my car.


Thanks Mike, I'll be picking up brushless sometime this week. I won't be able to miss this Weds due to a rehearsal I have to go to. I'll be back the following Weds with car setup for brushless. I also have 2 1600 packs now too. Thanks for the help.

Doug

[chadlow75]

a big thanks to Chad for letting me use his car sunday.:thumbsup: this is a fun class the cars drive pretty good and have pleanty of speed. im realy thinking of buying one for a 2nd class to run. and ill tell you what they look so good on the track

c ya
Randy

No problem Randy, glad you have so much fun with it.

[ThisDougsForU]

Hmm I just received my duratrax 1600 mini battery and I was sent the stick pack, not the flat pack...I guess I can just disassemble it and resolder it into a flat pack config:mad:

[2cells]

Cliff here,I ran a 22-50 gear combo. I have a back up mini pro system I would sell for a hundred bucks. It has got mabey 10 minutes run time on it. Call me if you'r interested. 977-1380. GO skoal Bandit.

[ThisDougsForU]

What up Cliff! I'll give you a call tomorrow about the mini system, I'm definitely interested in it.

[sps3172]

What up Cliff! I'll give you a call tomorrow about the mini system, I'm definitely interested in it.

Before you buy it, make sure it's the one with the LOOOONG neck tenon.

Sorry....guitar joke. Doug gets it, I promise :).

[2cells]

You are canadian,not you are???????????? !&@%#$*() YANKIES

[ed gaines]

Before you buy it, make sure it's the one with the LOOOONG neck tenon.

Sorry....guitar joke. Doug gets it, I promise :).

My Dads neck tenon Is long, Then again it came from the very late 50's like 1959:D

[ThisDougsForU]

mmmmm 59 Les Paul

Hey Cliff just so you know when I called you, you didn't give me an area code in your number so I had to experiment.....just an FYI if you put 314 before your number it's St. Louis University!!!!!

Lookin' forward to picking up the brushless system and checking out the Maryville Track on thursday night.

[ed gaines]

He also has a 69 stratocaster,Both were inherit from his father.

[MK Race]

The state is safe again, sent them Johnny Rebs home with their tails between there legs.

Hey Mouse, what was that loud noise? Oh it was the track record falling.

Had fun tonight. Hope more of you Illinoise boys can make it next time.

[ThisDougsForU]

The state is safe again, sent them Johnny Rebs home with their tails between there legs.

Hey Mouse, what was that loud noise? Oh it was the track record falling.

Had fun tonight. Hope more of you Illinoise boys can make it next time.


How many did you run Mike ?

[MK Race]

41 @ 4:02 (41@4:02)

I was on a 41 4 flat pace in the 3rd round until I ran into a Mouse trap.

[MiniT21]

LMAO the famous quartermousing...

[ThisDougsForU]

Hehehe.

I'll be back next Weds...I had my mini over in Maryville tonight to pick up a mamba brushless system from Cliff so I could chuck my burnt out stocker. After we got it set on Cliff's computer it's as smooth as a baby's butt. I've got a 21/50 combo and it was running barely above 100 degrees and the car was flying so I'm happy :D

[2cells]

It is a 69 DMR [Dick Mann Replica] and my daddy is still alive. As far as that carpet bagging Kelm goes, I still got my throttle finger! !+@)#($**% Yankies :D

[low81ryder]

41 @ 4:02

I was on a 41 4 flat pace in the 3rd round until I ran into a Mouse trap.WATCH OUT FOR THE THUMB :thumbsup: 360 lol. CYA BUD......Mouse:revs::revs::thumbsup::greenflag:

[ThisDougsForU]

What is the safe temp rage on the mamba 4200 system ? I'm running a 21/50 combo, and after a run I'm right at around 108-110 degrees. At practice yesterday I was running 5.9's and 6.0's and I need just a bit more gearing so I'd like to go up to a 22t on the pinion.

[MiniT21]

thats a little cold yet, you could easily go up 1 or even 2 teeth. Although my car didn't handle worth a damn i felt the gearing was alright, and i was geared 22/50.

[MK Race]

Doug I am geared 51/50 and sometimes I think I should go down a tooth. My motor comes off around 100 degrees. Work on the setup just a little more.

See ya Wednesday.

[sps3172]

Doug I am geared 51/50 and sometimes I think I should go down a tooth. My motor comes off around 100 degrees. Work on the setup just a little more.

See ya Wednesday.

I think you've been listening to too much Van Halen.......did you mean '21/50'?

[ThisDougsForU]

Doug I am geared 51/50 and sometimes I think I should go down a tooth. My motor comes off around 100 degrees. Work on the setup just a little more.

See ya Wednesday.


51/50 no wonder your so fast!!!!:D

[MK Race]

I think you've been listening to too much Van Halen.......did you mean '21/50'?

Wow I just took the headphone out of the 8 track player and duh...............

Yes 21/50

[sps3172]

So where has the mini crowd been? I don't think anyone has shown up with a 1/18th sled in a week or so.

[ThisDougsForU]

I was there Sunday but had no one to race against, seems alot of guys have mini lates, but no one ever shows up at the same time. We should have a few tomorrow night though.

[sps3172]

I was there Sunday but had no one to race against, seems alot of guys have mini lates, but no one ever shows up at the same time. We should have a few tomorrow night though.

Hang in there Doug....

I was hoping Ben Giles might start bringing his mini.....he told me didn't realize that we were using Alan's rules. Now that he knows his car is legal, I hope to see him (Hint Hint Ben....you there? :) )

- SS

[smac]

There is a mini for sale at the track, but I believe that it is lacking a radio.

Speaking of that Losi radio...someone left a mini late model radio at the track last Wed.

I believe that Doug already said that it was not his. I think that it may be Chris Kaelin's.

Let me know.

[ThisDougsForU]

There is a mini for sale at the track, but I believe that it is lacking a radio.

Speaking of that Losi radio...someone left a mini late model radio at the track last Wed.

I believe that Doug already said that it was not his. I think that it may be Chris Kaelin's.

Let me know.


I'll ask Chris if he left it.

And it's no big deal Steve, a couple of my buddies have recently purchased some minis....and my MDM will be done by next week anyways :)

[DQbeck63]

So where has the mini crowd been? I don't think anyone has shown up with a 1/18th sled in a week or so.

I was there Sunday but had no one to race against, seems alot of guys have mini lates, but no one ever shows up at the same time. We should have a few tomorrow night though.

Hang in there Doug....

I was hoping Ben Giles might start bringing his mini.....he told me didn't realize that we were using Alan's rules. Now that he knows his car is legal, I hope to see him (Hint Hint Ben....you there? :) )

- SS
I came up there sunday but didnt get there till late...I told Doug im gonna try to get up there tomorrow night if possible. What time does everything get started tomorrow night? I hope we can get a bigger crowd of mini LM guys going to the local tracks

[CKaelin85]

That Losi radio isn't mine, my TX is a DX3S Spektrum.

Talked to Doug earlier and he said we should have a good group for the Mini LM's.

Also, if anyone has a 50t spur gear for a Mini LM they would be willing to part with let me know here.

Thanks!
-Chris

[MK Race]

I talk to Mark Twain today and they are going to get a car in to keep in stock.





No Ed, the Hobby shop.

[ThisDougsForU]

I talk to Mark Twain today and they are going to get a car in to keep in stock.





No Ed, the Hobby shop.


Good call by them, I bet it will sell pretty fast.

Got an e-mail the other day from Arrow Grafix...my mini body is done and on the way!

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/bfutura15/Skoal4.jpg

[smac]

I don't have all of the detalis yet, but I am putting together plans for offering cash payback for Wed night Mini Late Model racing!

I am also puchasing the Mini Late Model that has been for sale at the track to set up and allow it to be rented and raced on race nights.

[ThisDougsForU]

Very cool Scott. My best friend Stew got loaned a mini on Saturday night at M-ville (thanks Matt) and he's buying one now too. He took second place out there in the a-main and is hooked. Once he gets his car he'll be a regular at smac.

[DQbeck63]

Very cool Scott. My best friend Stew got loaned a mini on Saturday night at M-ville (thanks Matt) and he's buying one now too. He took second place out there in the a-main and is hooked. Once he gets his car he'll be a regular at smac.

No problem Doug... I'm glad he had a good time and he looked good out there...hope he gets one soon! I will loan anyone the car if its gonna get us a new driver for the class! Im hoping to start getting a few of my friends to come race and get them involved too. Word is that Cliff and Mouse mite b coming wednesday night to race mini's as well...dont know if its true or rumor! Thats cool scott that you will be renting that car out...maybe thas what I should do with my 2nd car...lol! I'm gonna try to make it out there wednesday night but no promises...i have to work and the prelude to the dream is on so i dont wanna miss that either!

[smac]

Picked up a 58 and 60 spur gear for the SmacTrac mini, but could not find any pinions except a 15 and a 22. Sounds like I need a 17 or so for the stock motor. Does that sound about right?
Also need to figure out some stiffer springs for it. Someone mentioned pan car side shock springs. I think Checkered Flag has them in stock.

[ThisDougsForU]

I use a very stiff pan car spring for my front right shock. The thing won't budge and that's how I like it. The rest of my springs are stock all the way around. The problem with the stock shocks is that they are very leaky. I have to add oil every couple of weeks or the car handles like garbage. This setup makes my car really stiff and keeps it on the tight side.

[ThisDougsForU]

I was ordering a 5000 lipo from Pro-Match when I saw they are offering 1600 mah mini packs. I just ordered a flat pack so we'll see how they do compared to the duratrax. Mike, you ever seen anyone running them before ? I know alot of guys love the pro-match big packs so I'm guessing these will be nice.

[MK Race]

I have a 1600 pack that I run. It is my best battery just because it is my newest battery.

I think all the 1600 cells are the same.

[smac]

Found out that the SmacTrac Mini was missing a bearing in the rear hub. Guess I should have looked it over a little closer before trying to run it. I put a bearing in it and ran it today It ran O.K. and I was able to turn 40 laps with it. It TQ'd and won the main, but it was the only car on the track too! It handles alright, but it still needs more power. I geared it at 16/58, but I am not sure what kind of shape the motor is in.

[ThisDougsForU]

Congrats to Matt for winning his first Mini race @ Smac. The new loose dirt is friggin' awesome.

[DQbeck63]

Congrats to Matt for winning his first Mini race @ Smac. The new loose dirt is friggin' awesome.

Thanks Doug...I had a blast, and the track was super fast! It was fun just because of how close we all were and having 6 or 7 of us out there at one time made it even more fun! Scott you guys did a great job on the track:thumbsup::thumbsup:...its bad fast!!

[CKaelin85]

The action keeps getting better and better in the MLM's!!!

Smac took the win tonight over Phil Van Booven in a great race that came down to the final lap, after some mild bumping and banging Smac took the win by 0.017!!!

[ThisDougsForU]

The action keeps getting better and better in the MLM's!!!

Smac took the win tonight over Phil Van Booven in a great race that came down to the final lap, after some mild bumping and banging Smac took the win by 0.017!!!


Man it sucks not racing on Weds night, wish I coulda gone.