Open 1/10 latemodel

[dirtman]

Who is up for some open 1/10 latemodel.
Kiser :checkeredflag:

[Rob Cutman]

ME, but it wont be this weekend, after we get back from the freeze I''ll be up for it!

[jrcspeedway]

I wish i was closer i really had fun down at that track. :thumbsup: :greenflag: :checkeredflag:

[ahinchma]

Count me in!

[Quick Change]

sounds good, i'm in.

[dj12nc]

Count me in!!!

[wfw94]

Who is up for some open 1/10 latemodel.
Kiser :checkeredflag:Is that Open, as in anything goes?

[BackyardRC]

Hows it going Don!

[Quick Change]

Is that Open, as in anything goes?
DODC rules for open 1/10 late model

[JONSEE]

Don, its a good thing you didn't sell me your car. I AM STILL WAITING ON MINE. 4 weeks and counting.

[wfw94]

Lance and I were wondering if anyone was up for some Open Late model , anythings goes, Chicago style, Saturday night racing.

[wfw94]

Hows it going Don! What's up , how's racing ?

[wfw94]

Don, its a good thing you didn't sell me your car. I AM STILL WAITING ON MINE. 4 weeks and counting.
Chad builds some nice stuff, most of it is made to order, but it will be worth the wait.

[glgraphix]

Is that Open, as in anything goes?
Well, whata-u-know, Don IS still alive, lol. Hows it going buddy?? Havent seen you in a while. You and Lance planning on coming up this weekend? I'll be there, would be kool to hangout.
Kevin

[wfw94]

Well, whata-u-know, Don IS still alive, lol. Hows it going buddy?? Havent seen you in a while. You and Lance planning on coming up this weekend? I'll be there, would be kool to hangout.
KevinCan't make it this weekend, my father has been pretty sick, so I better hang around home. We are looking for some old skool Outlaw late model action. How has the racing been?

[Jody Utt]

Lance and I were wondering if anyone was up for some Open Late model , anythings goes, Chicago style, Saturday night racing.

I would be in for that......sounds like fun, and it would definitely be fast.:revs::revs::revs:

[jones07racing]

I would be up for that too. just not interested in running a latemodel without a sidedam. its no fun at all to me.....

[lumpy]

1 got 20 to win for dirtman sat.

[Quick Change]

We have interest and had a good show of support for DODC open 1/10 late models.
I hope this can continue.

[jones07racing]

We have interest and had a good show of support for DODC open 1/10 late models.
I hope this can continue.


Thats good by all means do it I hope the class contines to grow for you guys. I just think they killed one of the best classes out there. But I don't have anything to do with it. If your happy with running it I'm glad.. But I am not interested in running something you can run a limted motor in and be faster than the open cars. Thats why we have an OPEN class and a LIMTED class I thought.

[wfw94]

Thats good by all means do it I hope the class contines to grow for you guys. I just think they killed one of the best classes out there. But I don't have anything to do with it. If your happy with running it I'm glad.. But I am not interested in running something you can run a limted motor in and be faster than the open cars. Thats why we have an OPEN class and a LIMTED class I thought.
Good response Lee , I wasn't that good at it but I really enjoyed running them. When they eliminated the side dams it took away the class I really enjoyed. I would like to see it comeback at least on a Saturday night show. The best chassis tuning option is Lexan.

[wfw94]

We have interest and had a good show of support for DODC open 1/10 late models.
I hope this can continue.Thats great, but I think you need to change the name to Late model and Limited Late model, because it's certainly not Open.

[jones07racing]

Good response Lee , I wasn't that good at it but I really enjoyed running them. When they eliminated the side dams it took away the class I really enjoyed. I would like to see it comeback at least on a Saturday night show. The best chassis tuning option is Lexan.


I think everybody thinks that way.... Heard alot of people talking about it in PA last weekend... They said they hated it now..

[Quick Change]

GUYS!!! I am not looking for a debate, (that could go on for a while) I am not bashing side dams, Please start another thread for opinions on rules, we are trying to use this thread for POSITIVE interest, DODC rules is what we are following each week and for bigger events, thats one of the reasons we want to see the class grow.

[wfw94]

GUYS!!! I am not looking for a debate, (that could go on for a while) I am not bashing side dams, Please start another thread for opinions on rules, we are trying to use this thread for POSITIVE interest, DODC rules is what we are following each week and for bigger events, thats one of the reasons we want to see the class grow.Looks like a public forum, where opinions are accepted. We were talking about something we enjoyed not about dodc rules or big events. I think just about every track I know of still allows a class to partcipate if enough show up, and that is what I was talking about.

[jones07racing]

Looks like a public forum, where opinions are accepted. We were talking about something we enjoyed not about dodc rules or big events. I think just about every track I know of still allows a class to partcipate if enough show up, and that is what I was talking about.


I know we are talking about running it at wilson... But bottom line kipp I am not trying to start a debate but its like this man rc racing isn't the same anymore. There are to much classes and evertime something new comes out everybody jumps to that. Thats the problem. Also I think the races really don't get a say so about anything. I understand the track owners make the rules and you have to follow by them but man you got to have your racers happy. I understand what they are trying to do is keep cost down and make the racer closer together. If they think this is the best way that fine. I just have never seen forms of racing trying to slow everything down and keep cost out of it. Man I don't know any racinig that don't cost money. If the people don't want to spend the money to be fast and spend the time it take to be fast go play tennis or something. I hope people don't take this the wrong way but it the truth. Also if you got modified motors you just better put it in the box and go spend $150 on a tg because you are going to get out ran by one........

[T.Ford14]

Lee I agree with you,not debating but the "open latemodel" class is not really that open anymore.The whole point is to be be fast and if a TG motor is outrunning the good motors then the open class will probably fall of the books so to speak and thats all the nitro latemodels we will have left is the limited.Money situation is understandable to an extent but there are still plenty of guys who can and would run the true open style of cars we were running with no problem and you wont lose cars in that class.The reason of closer racing i also understand but i just dont think this the way its going to happen.You still have the guys that can make this new rule package work just as good and the guys who dont have the side dam stability is going to be that much further behind.Never the less its not the "open" class that it once was.I would love to see the side dams back in open latemodel classes because it keeps the mod motors into play,keeps the the open class fast,and the motor guys in buissness.Racing is suppossed to be fast.If it was slow then we would all have sliders racing each other and be done with it. Just my :twocents: :checkeredflag: :thumbsup:

[speed4less]

The main problem with open is the parts can’t stand the power. It is very frustrating breaking brand new parts. I’ve seen Lee break more than he finishes. I only ran open a few times and broke more than I finished. I love to go fast but I also work hard to be prepared and finish races. When you use the best parts avalble and still break more than you finish what are we to do?
We could run open if someone would build a completely new drive train, dog bones and all. We have people building transmissions for $300 that’s just stupid. Maybe the powers to be should be looking at making a better car. We could go on and on. I think the DODC has done the best they can with what they have to work with.

[tailslide]

I don't know if it's your track or what, but all we run down here in fl is open. And they actually got faster when the side dams were removed. And since, the class has doubled in size and is one of our biggest classes at the fdos races. They are wicked fast, about 2 laps quicker than the open sprints, and the racing is close. If you tried to run a tg down here, you would get run over. Not trying to sound like a jerk, but the cars will handle fine if you get the right setup. Go to work on the setup, and they will be just as fast or faster than the side dams.

[jones07racing]

I don't know if it's your track or what, but all we run down here in fl is open. And they actually got faster when the side dams were removed. And since, the class has doubled in size and is one of our biggest classes at the fdos races. They are wicked fast, about 2 laps quicker than the open sprints, and the racing is close. If you tried to run a tg down here, you would get run over. Not trying to sound like a jerk, but the cars will handle fine if you get the right setup. Go to work on the setup, and they will be just as fast or faster than the side dams.

dude I really find it hard to believe you went faster without a sidedam. but if that's the case I am happy for u. I promise you I go all over and race and I can tell you I have not been to a track yet that the opens has been faster that limited. I was in Pa last week and it was the samething there you couldn't even tell a differences. as far as setting a car up I think I can do that,, that's not the problem. but I have no desire to run it. but I know nobody cares and I am not trying to be an ass but man don't stop the people that want to run it.

[tailslide]

ok

[T.Ford14]

Hey Mike,i see your point and didnt think about the parts.Your right the cars dont always live up to the power,Latemodel Nats last year for example.....I tore up 6 transmissions myself,turned an all metal gear one into dust on the inside,but $300 for a transmission is not the way to go and i think the cars could be improved for alot cheaper and we can get back to some fast ass racing.Lee your also right i haven't seen the opens be faster than the limited anywhere yet.I heard it can be done but just haven't seen it. At the this time maybe it is all they can do with what they got like Ott said,i just hope there is a change in the works to better the issue.:thumbsup::D:beer:

[jones07racing]

Hey Mike,i see your point and didnt think about the parts.Your right the cars dont always live up to the power,Latemodel Nats last year for example.....I tore up 6 transmissions myself,turned an all metal gear one into dust on the inside,but $300 for a transmission is not the way to go and i think the cars could be improved for alot cheaper and we can get back to some fast ass racing.Lee your also right i haven't seen the opens be faster than the limited anywhere yet.I heard it can be done but just haven't seen it. At the this time maybe it is all they can do with what they got like Ott said,i just hope there is a change in the works to better the issue.:thumbsup::D:beer:

I know it can be bad on parts but you said you broke 6 tranmissions you got to remember how the track was. BUMPY!!!!! Mike I have broke parts before but I don't think I have broke more than I have finshed. As far as a $300 tranmission that is crazy. you can buy the one than chris sells at bumps & jumps for $130.... Never had a problem with it... But like I said I just don't think they thought it out well before they made a decision.

[mikeschellracing]

i liked it better with the old sidedam rules. not big enough to make it a ll out motor war, but big enough if you wanted to go faster than a limited car you could. there are plenty of people here in pa that feel the same way. as far as drivetrain we didn't have that problem last year except 1 weekend at newville. i think the rules for 2010 should be set back to the 2008 sidedam package. :thumbsup:

[jones07racing]

i liked it better with the old sidedam rules. not big enough to make it a ll out motor war, but big enough if you wanted to go faster than a limited car you could. there are plenty of people here in pa that feel the same way. as far as drivetrain we didn't have that problem last year except 1 weekend at newville. i think the rules for 2010 should be set back to the 2008 sidedam package. :thumbsup:

10-4 on that mike well said. I wish they would go back. I really loved latemodel but now I hate it.... you know it was crazy up at the freeze I was standing upstairs watching practice and I couldn't even tell what was on the track limit or open that's crazy. I hope everybody will repond to this and maybe we can get this class back up and running.

[kerstetter]

I will reply to this I would like to sidedams on the latemodels as well I dont run 1 but I think open should mean open and your right lee the limited are just as good or faster then the opens at this point

[speed4less]

I don't have a problem putting the side dam back on. Lee I may have stretched it a little but you know what I ment. Maybe I could get in the dog bone biz. I think the 1/10 open class was better with the side dam. What if we put the side dam on and came up with some type of motor rule. I think if we were to do a motor rule the DODC should make the companies bid on the motors and use one base motor. Let the DODC supply them at a good price. Then you could give them to your motor builder to mod or the motor builder could get them from the DODC. Set certin standards for the base motor. Base motor must retail for $200 or less. We all would be some what on the same page but still be faster than the limited class. Just some food for thought.
Later,
"OTT"

[jones07racing]

I don't have a problem putting the side dam back on. Lee I may have stretched it a little but you know what I ment. Maybe I could get in the dog bone biz. I think the 1/10 open class was better with the side dam. What if we put the side dam on and came up with some type of motor rule. I think if we were to do a motor rule the DODC should make the companies bid on the motors and use one base motor. Let the DODC supply them at a good price. Then you could give them to your motor builder to mod or the motor builder could get them from the DODC. Set certin standards for the base motor. Base motor must retail for $200 or less. We all would be some what on the same page but still be faster than the limited class. Just some food for thought.
Later,
"OTT"

hey I am all for that. like I said I think it is better ways they could have went about it. you know its really no need to have a motor guy now because you can't use him. aleast not for open latemodel. one of the things that really upset me was that everybody ran the whole year last year with a sidedam and then a month before the biggest race of the year they changed it. but I heard they were talking about taking the sidedams off the open 1/8 scales. man them things are about already out of control but if they do that man they will be all out of control... man I also remember back in the day when they were running billboard on latemodels. point blank latemodels need a SIDEDAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dirty one]

hey I am all for that. like I said I think it is better ways they could have went about it. you know its really no need to have a motor guy now because you can't use him. aleast not for open latemodel. one of the things that really upset me was that everybody ran the whole year last year with a sidedam and then a month before the biggest race of the year they changed it. but I heard they were talking about taking the sidedams off the open 1/8 scales. man them things are about already out of control but if they do that man they will be all out of control... man I also remember back in the day when they were running billboard on latemodels. point blank latemodels need a SIDEDAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



lee ,

what they need to do is from the top rear of roof to back of body . let you put a side dam.
about 3 in. tall. just on the left side. my cars got better with out the big side dams , but i like driving a loose car. that 3 in. side dam would tell them apart from the limited cars.but i can also see there point. they were getting to fast and someone was going to get heart . that was corn mash. just give alittle more dam. like i said top of reat roof to back of body. at least we could tell the diff. between open an limited. hope to see you soon bud.:thumbsup::thumbsup:


dirty one

[jones07racing]

lee ,

what they need to do is from the top rear of roof to back of body . let you put a side dam.
about 3 in. tall. just on the left side. my cars got better with out the big side dams , but i like driving a loose car. that 3 in. side dam would tell them apart from the limited cars.but i can also see there point. they were getting to fast and someone was going to get heart . that was corn mash. just give alittle more dam. like i said top of reat roof to back of body. at least we could tell the diff. between open an limited. hope to see you soon bud.:thumbsup::thumbsup:


dirty one

I know what you are saying dale but man I thought thats why we had a limit and a open class so we can split the difference.. But as far as getting hurt how are we going to get hurt by them.. Man look at the 1/8 scales they are running mod 28's now. I can see one od them hurting somebody...

[jaybird 52]

:Dwhoops wrong thread but anyways if ya want side dams thats a edm:checkeredflag::beer::ha::ha:

[T.Ford14]

I know what you are saying dale but man I thought thats why we had a limit and a open class so we can split the difference.. But as far as getting hurt how are we going to get hurt by them.. Man look at the 1/8 scales they are running mod 28's now. I can see one od them hurting somebody...



Agreed,and it doesn't matter which class or how fast,if the car is running 25 or 80 mph thats not even a factor, you could still get hurt either way,if we were worried about that we would take up putt putt golf or something.The 1/8 scales are way more out of control but it still doesn't make any more dangerous than the 1/10 scale.If there was a motor rule and you mod them it will still be fast as long as the side dam was in place and then we would have the class back and be faster than the limited cars andwe would be able be able to tell them apart.Lee i remember the track was bumpy at the Latemodels Nats' so it does play in the equation on how well the parts hold up.So the bottom line is,it's not the same as it was and there really should be a change made so the racing can be seperated by speed again and just by a class name.:thumbsup::beer:

[jones07racing]

Agreed,and it doesn't matter which class or how fast,if the car is running 25 or 80 mph thats not even a factor, you could still get hurt either way,if we were worried about that we would take up putt putt golf or something.The 1/8 scales are way more out of control but it still doesn't make any more dangerous than the 1/10 scale.If there was a motor rule and you mod them it will still be fast as long as the side dam was in place and then we would have the class back and be faster than the limited cars andwe would be able be able to tell them apart.Lee i remember the track was bumpy at the Latemodels Nats' so it does play in the equation on how well the parts hold up.So the bottom line is,it's not the same as it was and there really should be a change made so the racing can be seperated by speed again and just by a class name.:thumbsup::beer:

thank you... maybe people will see this and make a change I know we are going to go back to running them at wilson on a weekly race so if anyone is interested in running some open latemodel come on down to wilson...

[T.Ford14]

thank you... maybe people will see this and make a change I know we are going to go back to running them at wilson on a weekly race so if anyone is interested in running some open latemodel come on down to wilson...

Lee,you are welcome sir and i really hope that a change is made.It's good to see a track is still running this setup and look forward to running there one day.:beer::checkeredflag: