SmacTalk

[sps3172]

Every track needs a good 'smack talking' thread. Come on...who's gonna beat up on who? :ha:

Kelm? T-Mac? Skip B? Eugene? Certainly there's some old 'grudges' out there waiting to re-surface? :thumbsup::thumbsup:

This should be the most 'exciting' thread in the forum!!

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Hey, what's the deal here? The only names I see here that you expect to be trash talking is old guys?

I am planning on calling Skip B. to see if he can get up the ramp to the drivers stand with that walker. Kelm is going to come racing with us again but I can't say anything bad about him, just in case we end up running foams and I have to get him to groove my tires.

By the way, does anybody know how you go about changing your name on this forum? That sign in name is from 1970 when I had a particularly bad night before a race day and no longer applies.

MacDaddy

[sps3172]

Hey, what's the deal here? The only names I see here that you expect to be trash talking is old guys?

I figured I better wait until I at least run with all you 'crusty old dudes' before I start running my mouth.:p:p:p

I'm sure I won't know how to act without any right turns out there....

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Did you say right turns? Whats up with that?????:confused::thumbsdown:

[sps3172]

Did you say right turns? Whats up with that?????:confused::thumbsdown:

While you're at it, why don't you tell us all how you feel about pan cars? :)

[Ben Giles]

I will be there with a 1/18 late model it's starting again isnt it terry.

Ben Giles
Qusac10@aol.com

[MK Race]

ummmmmm Terry, it wasn't 1970, it was around 1990 and I think the morning was the bad part. I think the night before was the good part. Now how much are you willing to pay to keep my mouth shut.

[sps3172]

ummmmmm Terry, it wasn't 1970, it was around 1990 and I think the morning was the bad part. I think the night before was the good part. Now how much are you willing to pay to keep my mouth shut.

I bid exactly $1 higher than his offer to keep quiet....now tell us the WHOLE STORY :)

[sps3172]

Come on T-Mac......was that all you had for us?

Kelm...you should just spill the story now. It will come out sooner or later...he's stuck with that screen name for LIFE :)

[MK Race]

Well let's just say it involved a bad day of racing followed by a good time that night and a very, very, bad next day.

Reaching for that wallet yet MacDaddy??????????????

[sps3172]

Well let's just say it involved a bad day of racing followed by a good time that night and a very, very, bad next day.

Reaching for that wallet yet MacDaddy??????????????

Get to the part about the donkey and the circus midget, already!!!!

[overlandovalracer]

Get to the part about the donkey and the circus midget, already!!!!


Yea, spill the story already!!!I'm just glad people are talkin about you & not me! Hell, a circus midget & donkey trumps my missing boot & a bra on my head for the feature race!

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Ok, so maybe I don;t exactly remember the date or all that happened the night before, with the exception of a goodly number of pepermint schnops shots and a really not too attractive girl at the bar, but I do remember the next day at the track and it wasn't pretty. Fast cars, silicone tires, and going around in very small circles doesn't match real well with a dooozy of a hangover. Thank God for back up drivers.

MacDaddy

P.S.
How can I get my sign on name changed so I can try to put this regretable incident behind me? And just to try to get the spotlight off my past, somebody ask Kelm about the ice cream machine!!!!!

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

All right now, enough of this frivolity, on to a more serious subject (tires).

Being one of the original old timers in this dirt oval venue, I remember well all the fun we had when we switched first to foam tires and then to silicone on our dirt oval cars at Pontoon Beach and other tracks around the country. I, along with a very select few am a real fan of silicone tires>

However, and this is a big however, I do remember what the tire swap eventually did to the dirt oval racing at Pontoon Beach. We had already found that if you wanted to run dirt oval anywhere in the country, you ran a Custom Works car or you were at the back of the field. This caused some problems because they were expensive and nto handled by any of the hobby shops in St. Louis. This was not however the big problem.

When we went to foam tires it became evident that the entry level, new racers were not able to compete since set up and driving skills became more important. It was also the case that tires had to be grooved in just the right manner to hook up well. Then there was the problem that after just a day or two of racing the edges wore off the grooves and the tires had to be turned down and grooved again to obtain maximum traction and as is usual in our sport, newer and better compounds came out every week or two.

This ran off a number of racers who couldn't keep up with the fanatics that the rest of us had become. Those of us who were able to keep up and run at the front of the pack were now really bothered by those who couldn't and were in the way of us making a really good run. How about 60 plus laps in 4 minutes? This caused hard feelings with those not able to run up front. We then compounded the problem by going to silicone tires that had all the same compound problems but took just the right brand of silicone and a real knack at applying the stuff. Now, how about 78 laps in 4 minutes, when the entry level driver was lucky to turn 45 or 50.

We ran off so many racers that we eventually went to pan cars. DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT!!!!!

Even that didn't work and the track eventually died as a direct result of the tire wars in my opinion. I'm afraid that if we don't keep the tires to simple, rubber tires, the same could happen here,.

Lets talk about it.

Mac Daddy

[sps3172]

All right now, enough of this frivolity, on to a more serious subject (tires).

Being one of the original old timers in this dirt oval venue, I remember well all the fun we had when we switched first to foam tires and then to silicone on our dirt oval cars at Pontoon Beach and other tracks around the country. I, along with a very select few am a real fan of silicone tires>

However, and this is a big however, I do remember what the tire swap eventually did to the dirt oval racing at Pontoon Beach. We had already found that if you wanted to run dirt oval anywhere in the country, you ran a Custom Works car or you were at the back of the field. This caused some problems because they were expensive and nto handled by any of the hobby shops in St. Louis. This was not however the big problem.

When we went to foam tires it became evident that the entry level, new racers were not able to compete since set up and driving skills became more important. It was also the case that tires had to be grooved in just the right manner to hook up well. Then there was the problem that after just a day or two of racing the edges wore off the grooves and the tires had to be turned down and grooved again to obtain maximum traction and as is usual in our sport, newer and better compounds came out every week or two.

This ran off a number of racers who couldn't keep up with the fanatics that the rest of us had become. Those of us who were able to keep up and run at the front of the pack were now really bothered by those who couldn't and were in the way of us making a really good run. How about 60 plus laps in 4 minutes? This caused hard feelings with those not able to run up front. We then compounded the problem by going to silicone tires that had all the same compound problems but took just the right brand of silicone and a real knack at applying the stuff. Now, how about 78 laps in 4 minutes, when the entry level driver was lucky to turn 45 or 50.

We ran off so many racers that we eventually went to pan cars. DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT!!!!!

Even that didn't work and the track eventually died as a direct result of the tire wars in my opinion. I'm afraid that if we don't keep the tires to simple, rubber tires, the same could happen here,.

Lets talk about it.

Mac Daddy

Terry,

Great points…..few things I’d like to add…

Because Scott’s track is indoor, the surface will end up hard packed. The rubber tires that work on hard packed tracks are anything but ‘simple’. Do some research on the hot tire setup for Monee…this should give you some idea. The short version of the story is that you can’t simply bolt on a good hard packed rubber tire….it has to be ‘made’. Compound that with the fact that these tires typically cost more than a set of foams and when worn out, have to be thrown away (instead of trued and re-grooved). If this were a ‘loose track’ I’d agree that simple, buggy type tires would be the way to go.

The old foam compounds wore much faster….thankfully, we’re done with the Yellow/Green/Blue stuff. The newer compounds (silver, pink, etc) are reputed to last much longer (I’ve heard reports of guys using the same set all season at some tracks

The ‘Bullet Wedge’ type bodies and side dams have been eliminated. This goes a long way in terms of keeping the cars from becoming missiles that only a few guys could even drive.

[sps3172]

Ok, so maybe I don;t exactly remember the date or all that happened the night before, with the exception of a goodly number of pepermint schnops shots and a really not too attractive girl at the bar, but I do remember the next day at the track and it wasn't pretty. Fast cars, silicone tires, and going around in very small circles doesn't match real well with a dooozy of a hangover. Thank God for back up drivers.

MacDaddy

P.S.
How can I get my sign on name changed so I can try to put this regretable incident behind me? And just to try to get the spotlight off my past, somebody ask Kelm about the ice cream machine!!!!!


Kelm, what do you know about an ice cream machine? *smile*

[ed gaines]

WOW, but foams did not chase away new or current drivers back then.

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Well, looks like I have to shift gears here. I just talked to Steve Smith who has more current info than I do about tires. I am told that the new foam tires in the latetest compounds do not wear like the ones we ran back when and that they are less expensive to run than keeping up with the rubber tire wear, foam differences, side wall reinforcement, etc.

I have to admit that it has been a long time since I ran hard packed dirt oval and will concede to the more current knowledge of the guys currently running. Steve tells me that the tire rule, for the beginning of the season at least, will be one of run what you brung for tires. Once the season starts it will likely become evident which tire is superior in performance, driveability and economy.

I for one, hope that Steve is correct in that foam tires will be an economical and playing field leveling tire choice. Lets wait and see.

Mac Daddy

[cmain]

Maybe take the first 3-4 weeks to test and once a clear winner based on handling, cost and longevity is found make that tire a spec tire for the track/class this season excluding novice and beginner classes. You can reevaluate before each season to keep up with new tires.

I think groves are fine in foams but maybe have a track truer available and keep the grove patterns somewhat standard. I would rule out any tire that needs special skills to produce like silicone, cut tires, special inserts ECT. or have a outlaw class for them.

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Maybe take the first 3-4 weeks to test and once a clear winner based on handling, cost and longevity is found make that tire a spec tire for the track/class this season excluding novice and beginner classes. You can reevaluate before each season to keep up with new tires.

I think groves are fine in foams but maybe have a track truer available and keep the grove patterns somewhat standard. I would rule out any tire that needs special skills to produce like silicone, cut tires, special inserts ECT. or have a outlaw class for them.


Scott and Steve will be the final word in setting the rules for the season, but I think your idea for a spec tire may be an answer to "Tire Wars", I think the powers to be would do well to consider this as one of the options.

As for the tire truer, I understand there will be a track supplied tire truer available as long as racers treat it with respect.

[CShearburn]

Just to throw something else as an option... there are such things as buggy slicks. I know Panther has a few.

[MK Race]

Well it seems like MacDaddy's memory is coming coming back, so maybe I'm starting to forget about that weekend in Ohio.

Ice cream????????????? Never touch the stuff.:D

[MiniT21]

^^^ yah i believe that one :rolleyes: :D:D:D

My thought is, Going from buggy tires to foam tires requires a LOT of changes to make the cars fast with the different tires. 2 years ago we ran truck wheels(cut down) and wide front axles to make the cars lose the side bite that you gained from the rubber buggy tires. That was simple. Now those cars can't even compete with the new stuff. Its almost a must to have wide arms and long shocks to make them competitive. ( i can only remember a handful of cars that ran well without the wide arms, and everybody ran long shocks.) You will also need different nose and top wings for the two different types of racing. With that being said, For someone to get into it while the buggy tires work, they need all of the wide stuff/ long shocks/ bigger wings to be fast. And then a month later they change to foam tires, you have to get rid of all that stuff, and go back to narrow arms, short shocks, and the smaller wings. The 2 different forms of racing are totally different in setup. I think a decision needs to be made before hand to keep cost down for someone getting into it fresh for smac track.

I'd like the track to run foams, I'm willing to put out extra time and money to run some foams as i've never ran them.


Also to add to the above about the differences. The buggy tire stuff isn't really cheap either, its not just arms and shocks. Arms, turnbuckles, shock towers, shocks, wings (top and nose) Different wheels, and rear dog bones are all needed to make a car fast and easy to drive on a loose track.

[ed gaines]

Run foams from the beginning Thats whats I plan doing:D

[sps3172]

^^^ yah i believe that one :rolleyes: :D:D:D

My thought is, Going from buggy tires to foam tires requires a LOT of changes to make the cars fast with the different tires. 2 years ago we ran truck wheels(cut down) and wide front axles to make the cars lose the side bite that you gained from the rubber buggy tires. That was simple. Now those cars can't even compete with the new stuff. Its almost a must to have wide arms and long shocks to make them competitive. ( i can only remember a handful of cars that ran well without the wide arms, and everybody ran long shocks.) You will also need different nose and top wings for the two different types of racing. With that being said, For someone to get into it while the buggy tires work, they need all of the wide stuff/ long shocks/ bigger wings to be fast. And then a month later they change to foam tires, you have to get rid of all that stuff, and go back to narrow arms, short shocks, and the smaller wings. The 2 different forms of racing are totally different in setup. I think a decision needs to be made before hand to keep cost down for someone getting into it fresh for smac track.

I'd like the track to run foams, I'm willing to put out extra time and money to run some foams as i've never ran them.


Also to add to the above about the differences. The buggy tire stuff isn't really cheap either, its not just arms and shocks. Arms, turnbuckles, shock towers, shocks, wings (top and nose) Different wheels, and rear dog bones are all needed to make a car fast and easy to drive on a loose track.

Thanks for all the info.

In case anyone is confused, because Scott's track in indoors, it will be a HARD PACKED surface...there's no chance of it being 'loose dirt'. That being said, I don't expect that the setup differences between a high bite/smooth track setup for rubber tire or foam tires will be drastically different.

I've talked to Scott about coming up with something slightly more definitive in terms of the tire rules.......stay tuned.......

[MiniT21]

thats good, i think that will help the track out a whole lot in getting new racers

[ed gaines]

Terry,Scott, this is the race I spoke about saturday.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1178343

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Terry,Scott, this is the race I spoke about saturday.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1178343

Nice, You sure we have to wait till April?????

I see what you were talking about with the milk crates in the middle of the track for corner marshalls to put their cars and radios so they don't have to return to the pits but can go directly out to corner and keep the races moving. Real good idea.

[paco62]

Here is a newbie's perspective. I have never raced Dirt Oval before and am converting a Losi XXX Kinwald into a Late Model using a Speedy's Racing conversion kit. I don't have a ton of time or money to spend on the hobby, but am ready to move beyond a spec class option. In all of the forums, it seems that this foam/rubber tire issue burns slowly and never quite goes out.

From my experience, and maybe it is the different race styles, you can go out on an off-road track with a set of tires or two and still have a good time trying to beat your own personal best time and become a better driver (in most of the classes). if you are respectful and have decent driving skills, you can accomplish this without upsetting the better drivers (or at least not upsetting them frequently). It sounds like with dirt oval, there is so much more relevance to the tire maintenance and tweaking that I am already intimidated. The last thing I want to do is get a bunch of guys angry at me because I am pulling slow laps due to not having special tires or not maintaining them properly. I am now confused as to whether my conversion plan will even work if I need foam...it sounds like you need a touring car.

This is just an observation from someone that has spent a lot of time trying to gather information on Dirt Oval. I am not, nor will be one of those guys that complains or threatens not to race at SmacTrac (it would be a meager threat at best anyway); that is not my style nor my point. I am just beginning to think that this Dirt Oval thing is much more complicated than I thought (and I definitely did not think it was just turning left).

That being said, everyone is very supportive and encouraging at the track, so I feel that if I can get over the initial learning curve, I might be able to actually post some real smac talk. :D

[sps3172]

Here is a newbie's perspective. I have never raced Dirt Oval before and am converting a Losi XXX Kinwald into a Late Model using a Speedy's Racing conversion kit. I don't have a ton of time or money to spend on the hobby, but am ready to move beyond a spec class option. In all of the forums, it seems that this foam/rubber tire issue burns slowly and never quite goes out.

From my experience, and maybe it is the different race styles, you can go out on an off-road track with a set of tires or two and still have a good time trying to beat your own personal best time and become a better driver (in most of the classes). if you are respectful and have decent driving skills, you can accomplish this without upsetting the better drivers (or at least not upsetting them frequently). It sounds like with dirt oval, there is so much more relevance to the tire maintenance and tweaking that I am already intimidated. The last thing I want to do is get a bunch of guys angry at me because I am pulling slow laps due to not having special tires or not maintaining them properly. I am now confused as to whether my conversion plan will even work if I need foam...it sounds like you need a touring car.

This is just an observation from someone that has spent a lot of time trying to gather information on Dirt Oval. I am not, nor will be one of those guys that complains or threatens not to race at SmacTrac (it would be a meager threat at best anyway); that is not my style nor my point. I am just beginning to think that this Dirt Oval thing is much more complicated than I thought (and I definitely did not think it was just turning left).

That being said, everyone is very supportive and encouraging at the track, so I feel that if I can get over the initial learning curve, I might be able to actually post some real smac talk. :D

Paco62,

Your converted XXX (I presume this is a 2WD buggy) will be a perfect fit for the DODC 17.5. 13.5 or open Mod classes (you could use a latemodel or EDM body). The touring car would end up in the 4WD class...so you don't NEED one unless you want to run that class as well.

Don't be intimidated.....this isn't as complicated as everyone is making it seem. We'll know more once we get some actual laps on the track but the tire situation (especially if we're talking foam) is AT LEAST as simple as what you deal with now running offroad.

Glad to hear that you're planning on coming out. Props for finding that conversion kit from Speedy's. You might want to start your own thread (here in the Smac Trac forum) to clue some of the other guys in on where you got your conversion parts, etc.

- SS

[paco62]

Paco62,

Your converted XXX (I presume this is a 2WD buggy) will be a perfect fit for the DODC 17.5. 13.5 or open Mod classes (you could use a latemodel or EDM body). The touring car would end up in the 4WD class...so you don't NEED one unless you want to run that class as well.

Don't be intimidated.....this isn't as complicated as everyone is making it seem. We'll know more once we get some actual laps on the track but the tire situation (especially if we're talking foam) is AT LEAST as simple as what you deal with now running offroad.

Glad to hear that you're planning on coming out. Props for finding that conversion kit from Speedy's. You might want to start your own thread (here in the Smac Trac forum) to clue some of the other guys in on where you got your conversion parts, etc.

- SS

It is a 2WD. I appreciate the support. I am sure it will be fine, just seems like an awful lot of information. SmacTrac really does a good job of ensuring all levels of racer are comfortable. That is part of the reason I am trying Dirt Oval.

That is a good idea. I will try and get my information together and setup a thread for conversion questions this weekend. Any help you guys needs at the track, let me know. I will be happy to chip in.

[sps3172]

Any of your old codgers wanna come out out and sniff nitro fumes on Sundays? I think the 1/8th late model class is going to be a ton of fun. The cars are cheap (Ofna for around 280-300 bucks), bullet proof (have you ever seen an offroad buggy tumble?), the engines aren't all that critical(again CHEAP)....and they make NOISE!!!!

Kelm? T-mac? Eddie?

As a sidebar, we're going to run the same rules as 'Big Bills'...you could always haul your 1/8th scale rig up there on a Friday night and race their show for some variety.

[overlandovalracer]

Damn it, that's another car I have to get togather now!!! What a great problem to have, lots of classes,lots of tracks, lots of fun. Great time to be an oval racer!!!

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Any of your old codgers wanna come out out and sniff nitro fumes on Sundays? I think the 1/8th late model class is going to be a ton of fun. The cars are cheap (Ofna for around 280-300 bucks), bullet proof (have you ever seen an offroad buggy tumble?), the engines aren't all that critical(again CHEAP)....and they make NOISE!!!!

Kelm? T-mac? Eddie?

As a sidebar, we're going to run the same rules as 'Big Bills'...you could always haul your 1/8th scale rig up there on a Friday night and race their show for some variety.

It does sound like it would be fun, but I'm afraid my Sundays are going to be tied up most of the time with streetrod events related to my business and running in vintage stock car dirt track events with the '37 Ford old stock car I am rebuilding.

Terry Mac

[paco62]

It does sound like it would be fun, but I'm afraid my Sundays are going to be tied up most of the time with streetrod events related to my business and running in vintage stock car dirt track events with the '37 Ford old stock car I am rebuilding.

Terry Mac

That's really nitro...:thumbsup:

[sps3172]

Damn it, that's another car I have to get togather now!!! What a great problem to have, lots of classes,lots of tracks, lots of fun. Great time to be an oval racer!!!

Jim....did I read this right? You're gonna be building a 1/8 Late Model?

[ed gaines]

So who's going to Big Bills this Saturday,If I get my rec's in time I will be there anybody else?

[overlandovalracer]

Jim....did I read this right? You're gonna be building a 1/8 Late Model?

I would love to, but my sponsor, (AKA aumannphotography.com)
hasn't cut me a check yet for this season!

[MK Race]

Great job on the track Scott, it is awesome. I don't know who all helped, but it is real nice.

Hey Eddie, the dinosaur was real fast. Maybe they should require pit stops.

The traction was getting better as the day went on.

See you all Wednesday.

[sps3172]

Great job on the track Scott, it is awesome. I don't know who all helped, but it is real nice.

Hey Eddie, the dinosaur was real fast. Maybe they should require pit stops.

The traction was getting better as the day went on.

See you all Wednesday.

Kelm....you bringing a 'big car' this time? Maybe something with an EDM body?

[ed gaines]

Yeah T-Rex got around ok:D

[overlandovalracer]

Hey Eddie, I hope some more 4wds come out. I gotta a lot of work to do to my pile, (rebuild diffs, shocks, order rear toe blocks, front caster blocks, cvd bones, bearings,etc). I wanted to see it go first before I dumped any cash/time. Your car looked like it was getting after it pretty good. Like I said, I hope to see more of them. It's definately a super fast & fun class.

Scott, Steve, & crew,(whoever helped with the track...Lindell?!), great job! I look forward to racing with you guys this summer & learning more about "brown carpet" racing!

Jim A.

[MiniT21]

Had an awesome time, the track was one of the best if not the best looking dirt ovals i've seen. Hopefully soon i'll get an edm and that class takes off.

[chadlow75]

Can't wait to try this track out.

[sps3172]

Had an awesome time, the track was one of the best if not the best looking dirt ovals i've seen. Hopefully soon i'll get an edm and that class takes off.

We've got a number of Open Mod EDMs waiting in the wings.....

I think Ed Gaines is going to run his SE in this class....Scott Lucas has a car....Drew Ellis is getting some gear together.

A crowd always breeds a crowd so we'll see how this goes....

[MiniT21]

Drew in a dirt oval car... now thats gonna be interesting. At least now you'll have somebody to give you some competition. Should be fun to watch.

[sps3172]

Drew in a dirt oval car... now thats gonna be interesting. At least now you'll have somebody to give you some competition. Should be fun to watch.

Smac got his car working pretty well last night....He ran 52 laps in qualifying and the main. My car...well...that was another story :)

[MiniT21]

Yah scott's a helluva wheel, and knows his way around setup. I have no doubt in my mind he'll be in that mix as well.

[MK Race]

Ok Steve, if Eddie can bring out the T-Rex, then I'm bring out my dino too. It may be a Raptor or it could end up running like a Bronto.

Watch out in the Open EDM class.

Hey T-Mac don't forget to bring one of your brush mods with you. Well maybe 2 or 3. My motor that was in the car actually blew up in my face.

[sps3172]

Ok Steve, if Eddie can bring out the T-Rex, then I'm bring out my dino too. It may be a Raptor or it could end up running like a Bronto.

Watch out in the Open EDM class.

Hey T-Mac don't forget to bring one of your brush mods with you. Well maybe 2 or 3. My motor that was in the car actually blew up in my face.

Right on!!! I have a hunch your dinosaur will get around just fine, Mike. :)

[smac]

Mike I should have a 12t and a 14t that you could use that should be about right for that direct drive.

[MK Race]

That will work. Thanks.

[Eugene Ryder]

Anyone racing tomorrow night? I'm gonna come down and I think Nick will come too. LMK

electric sprint for me

[ed gaines]

Should have the usual suspects there:D

[sps3172]

Hey Ed....did you get your body from Salvas? Are we going to see an SE in the EDM class Wednesday?

Eugene....Did you get that car from Barry? I have an extra NEW Kips DODC EDM body if you're not commited to the LM thing. I think it would fit the hyperdrive car.

[ed gaines]

Not yet,Just SC for me tomorrow.

[Eugene Ryder]

Barry was in Nashville saturday and I talked to him then. I will have 3 new cars coming this week sometime. I will run the EDM car or LM.....either one. But right now, Im just going to run the sprint tomorrow night.

See ya

[sps3172]

Barry was in Nashville saturday and I talked to him then. I will have 3 new cars coming this week sometime. I will run the EDM car or LM.....either one. But right now, Im just going to run the sprint tomorrow night.

See ya

Right on....glad to have you down, either way.

[ThisDougsForU]

The track was superb tonight. Great job on the grooming guys.:thumbsup:

[sps3172]

Thanks Doug!! Your mini LM looked great tonight!!

3 new track records!!! Truck, MDM and Mod EDM.

Seems like the rubber tire classes benefited the most from the track work. We had cars in the MDM class turning 5.1....that's only .2 off fast lap in Mod Sprint!!! The Truck record (also rubber tires) jumped by 2 laps tonight too!

[notSoMiniT23]

Thanks Doug!! Your mini LM looked great tonight!!

3 new track records!!! Truck, MDM and Mod EDM.

Seems like the rubber tire classes benefited the most from the track work. We had cars in the MDM class turning 5.1....that's only .2 off fast lap in Mod Sprint!!! The Truck record (also rubber tires) jumped by 2 laps tonight too!

who ran that in the mdm?

[sps3172]

:Dwho ran that in the mdm?

Lindell Gray

[ed gaines]

Your not counting nothing from the mains are you,Cause thats not a record when using IFMAR qualifying during the mains?

[sps3172]

Your not counting nothing from the mains are you,Cause thats not a record when using IFMAR qualifying during the mains?

We only count that stuff when the Cardinals are over .500 on natural turf and the moon is full. There also must be at least 1 'Rush' song playing in the backround at some point during the specified 240 second period. :)

Hey....Ed....I never asked what compound tires you were using last night. Are you sold on the Magic 'IT' Truespeed tire sauce or do you plan to experiment a bit more? So far, that stuff seems easiest way to go to me.

[ed gaines]

Thats It no more RUSH:D, Silver compound all the way around.Yes I want to try the Putman stuff but can not find it.

[sps3172]

Thats It no more RUSH:D, Silver compound all the way around.Yes I want to try the Putman stuff but can not find it.


Todd told me that he doesn't normally use his 'Pink' and 'Red' sauces on the BSR type silver as the foam is fairly closed cell and it doesn't soak in like he wants. You're welcome to try mine before you buy some if you like...I have both.

He did suggest it for all the other compounds, however (RC4Less silver, pink etc and all the other BSR compounds).

[notSoMiniT23]

sweet well if lindell read this he needs to get that thing over to maryville and play on that track.

[sps3172]

sweet well if lindell read this he needs to get that thing over to maryville and play on that track.

....or.....

You guys could come back and reclaim your MDM track record! :)

Sorry...I had to 'talk a little smack' in this thread....this IS the 'Smack Talk'n' thread, afterall.

Is the weather going to cooperate for you guys this weekend? I was supposed to have a 'rent a ride' sprinter to run couteousy of Mr Lucas, but I haven't heard from him in a while so I'm not sure how soon I'll be able to play on the high banks.

[overlandovalracer]

Good for Lindell! I'll be back to give it another go real soon!

[sps3172]

Good for Lindell! I'll be back to give it another go real soon!

Looking forward to another visit from the purple and yellow 'wheelie machine'. That car had more rear traction than anything I've seen run since.

[Ben Giles]

Are we racing this sunday?

Ben Giles

[MiniT21]

Well then... i'll have to come back up there this sunday and reclaim that track record..... :D

I didn't know it got moved to an every sunday thing or i would have been there this past sunday.

[notSoMiniT23]

im ready to run smac again. got some new fandangled tricks in the bag for the ol mdm this time.. not really, just new springs.

[sps3172]

Are we racing this sunday?

Ben Giles


Yep...racing this Sunday....

FYI, not sure if you have anything 'flashlight powered' but we've not had anyone running nitro sutff. Nick (A+ Bodies) ran some practive laps with his 1/8 LM our first Sunday but he was the only one with nitro (Eugene had some new cars with him...I don't think they were finished yet) and no one has brought one back since. I simply haven't had time to finish mine.

[notSoMiniT23]

well if this weather keeps up we wont race at maryville... so id be willing to come to smac. maybe fire up the nitro sprint and get that thing rollin...... dont have foams for it though.. wonder if the smooth mdm wheel/tire combo would work

[chadlow75]

I might bring out the old fantom powered losi xxxnt nitro if you bring your sprint kenny

[overlandovalracer]

Yea, then I could bring my XRAY nitro 18thscale latemodels! One is pretty stock & the other is, well...not so stock. I'd have to crap some slicks though :confused:

[smac]

Your not counting nothing from the mains are you,Cause thats not a record when using IFMAR qualifying during the mains?

We did count Steve's main into the track records because we ran a staggerd start just like in qualifying. That 4.2 for a fast lap in the main results is an actual lap time and not the quick first lap that you see in most mains! In fact it is only one of the many 4.2's that he turned including 9 of them in a row!!

Steve apparently did not enjoy losing last time out, because he definately stepped up his game!! Apparently when you are that fast you also need alot more room to fit your car into turn one! ;)

[ed gaines]

We did count Steve's main into the track records because we ran a staggerd start just like in qualifying. That 4.2 for a fast lap in the main results is an actual lap time and not the quick first lap that you see in most mains! In fact it is only one of the many 4.2's that he turned including 9 of them in a row!!

Steve apparently did not enjoy losing last time out, because he definately stepped up his game!! Apparently when you are that fast you also need alot more room to fit your car into turn one! ;)

We have not talked about fast lap at all,It was how many laps turned in the main. I was referring to the IFMAR start in the mains,Not fast lap.

[smac]

We have not talked about fast lap at all,It was how many laps turned in the main. I was referring to the IFMAR start in the mains,Not fast lap.

I brought up fast laps to show how fast Steve went. That part had nothing to do with your post.

For the EDM main Wed night we ran a staggerd start which means that we ran the main exactly how qualifying is run. The tone went off and when we each crossed the line we each went onto our own individual clock.

It is true that track records only count in qualifying because the staggerd start is used. Since we used the staggerd start just like qualifying, I allowed it to count toward the track record.

[sps3172]

Kelm,

Is EDMosaurus going to make a second appearance this weekend?

[sps3172]

....you also need alot more room to fit your car into turn one! ;)

How do I get all this silver paint off my bumper?!?! :)

I think it has a whole lot more to do with being an idiot and a lot less to do with going fast!!!!

[MK Race]

Kelm,

Is EDMosaurus going to make a second appearance this weekend?

Nope, EDMosaurus is back in the museum with Sue the T-Rex. It may be revived into a 13.5 latemodel though.

[ed gaines]

Steve this is what I was talking about this morning,about Hannah an Broc.

http://www.qblast.net/images/stories/brocbye1.jpg



Visible in the Jody's photo are Bevo Forti (far left), Dave Osterman (JT pitboard), Don Westfall (beard), Keith McCarty and Leon Wolek (QBlast). QBlast was present during this historical moment in the sport of professional motocross.

[chadlow75]

Just wanted to say that I had alot of fun running my MDM for the first time today, also was the first time on a hard packed DO. Props to everyone that helped put that track together it is very nice. Also Scott, sorry for almost taking you and the computer out in the MDM main:o

[Jerry McMillen]

ed pm

[Denez]

Sorry about getting in the way with the fast ones first time on foams and I didnnt have a clue sorry again.

[sps3172]

Sorry about getting in the way with the fast ones first time on foams and I didnnt have a clue sorry again.

To me it seemed like ALL the sprints were getting around pretty well. You guys put on a good show. Glad to have you out....come race again soon!!

It's looking more and more like I need a BRIGHT GREEN sprint car too!!!

[sps3172]

Just wanted to say that I had alot of fun running my MDM for the first time today, also was the first time on a hard packed DO. Props to everyone that helped put that track together it is very nice. Also Scott, sorry for almost taking you and the computer out in the MDM main:o

Definately the prettiest MDM I've seen......and the FIRST to do full on freestyle!!! Was that a 'no handed superman seat grab' into the scoring booth?!?!

Thanks again for the 1/18th loaner!

- SS

[sps3172]

Steve this is what I was talking about this morning,about Hannah an Broc.

http://www.qblast.net/images/stories/brocbye1.jpg



Visible in the Jody's photo are Bevo Forti (far left), Dave Osterman (JT pitboard), Don Westfall (beard), Keith McCarty and Leon Wolek (QBlast). QBlast was present during this historical moment in the sport of professional motocross.

What? Team tactics? Say it ain't so. :)

[chadlow75]

Ha, thanks for the compliment on the body and no, that was a no handed double pits to chesty backflip.




Definately the prettiest MDM I've seen......and the FIRST to do full on freestyle!!! Was that a 'no handed superman seat grab' into the scoring booth?!?!

Thanks again for the 1/18th loaner!

- SS

[sps3172]

Ha, thanks for the compliment on the body and no, that was a no handed double pits to chesty backflip.

Nice one!! Do I at least get the assist on that one? :)

[Eugene Ryder]

Had a good time last night. I hope more sprints will come out and try this track, very fast and smooth. Good job.

[hrnts69]

Is there a class for 2WD Nitro? Anything from Nitro EDM to Gas Truck?

[Jerry McMillen]

steve,

yhm

jerry mc

[smac]

Don't forget no racing this Sunday because of Mother's Day!

[smac]

Is there a class for 2WD Nitro? Anything from Nitro EDM to Gas Truck?

I would love to see a class for any of the nitro cars, but there has not been any interest shown to this point.

[hrnts69]

If i come next Sunday with one of my Nitros, will i be put in a class?

Also, has anybody tried "street tread" type tires yet? Or is it all foams?

[sps3172]

If i come next Sunday with one of my Nitros, will i be put in a class?

Also, has anybody tried "street tread" type tires yet? Or is it all foams?

Smac experimented with some Custom Works 'street trac' tires. They were pretty bad until he ground the tread off...then they ran like all the other slicks...STUCK LIKE CHUCK.

Matt Morton managed to turn a 4.9 second lap in practice using them on his 'wide' outdoor sprinter, but had a problem with the car that sidelined it for the night before he could race it.

Jim Aumann won the first (and only) open 4WD LM race with a touring car on TC rubber tires.

Just giving some examples to show that it's not been 'all foams'.

[overlandovalracer]

Smac experimented with some Custom Works 'street trac' tires. They were pretty bad until he ground the tread off...then they ran like all the other slicks...STUCK LIKE CHUCK.

Matt Morton managed to turn a 4.9 second lap in practice using them on his 'wide' outdoor sprinter, but had a problem with the car that sidelined it for the night before he could race it.

Jim Aumann won the first (and only) open 4WD LM race with a touring car on TC rubber tires.

Just giving some examples to show that it's not been 'all foams'.

I'd love to come back & run some more open 4wd latemodel, just haven't had the time to "freshen it up". Eddie, you still got the Dominator?, I heard SMAC had a touring car too?, thisdougs4you...didn't you buy some from Cliff? Sorry if I got off topic, really looking forward to racing there again!

[sps3172]

I'd love to come back & run some more open 4wd latemodel, just haven't had the time to "freshen it up". Eddie, you still got the Dominator?, I heard SMAC had a touring car too?, thisdougs4you...didn't you buy some from Cliff? Sorry if I got off topic, really looking forward to racing there again!

Ed's still got the Dom...at least as of last week. He ran that red beast in practice some. Smac just finished turning his old X-ray FK-05 into a LM....I think he's planning on racing it tonight. His body isn't exactly 'legal' but seeing as how it weighs more than the car itself, I doubt it's helping him *smile*.

[ThisDougsForU]

Cliff sold me a brushless motor system for my mini-LM, but yes I do have a TC3 roller sitting here collecting dust. The only thing really holding me up from turning it late model is that I don't have a powerplant to put in it right now, and I can't afford one for a little while. If one of you guys has a 4wd up there tonight let me give it a couple laps and see how I like it. It'll hopefully light a fire under my rear to get mine finished.

[sps3172]

If one of you guys has a 4wd up there tonight let me give it a couple laps and see how I like it. It'll hopefully light a fire under my rear to get mine finished.

I'm pretty sure that can be arranged. We'll see you tonight.

[overlandovalracer]

Yea, no racing the 4wd for me tonight :mad: I still gotta fix some stuff on the car & at the home too...good luck guys!!!

Oh & Paco, Big Congats on the birth of you baby girl!!!

[Eugene Ryder]

Had a lot of fun again last night at Smac. If any of you guys/girls haven't been there yet, you gotta go check it out. Track is bad fast. EDM's are turning 4.1's and the sprints are in the 4.7-4.8 range. I will see you guys again Sunday!

[sps3172]

Had a lot of fun again last night at Smac. If any of you guys/girls haven't been there yet, you gotta go check it out. Track is bad fast. EDM's are turning 4.1's and the sprints are in the 4.7-4.8 range. I will see you guys again Sunday!


ER....great track record run in Mod Sprint last night.....2 full laps is a BIG gain!!

[Eugene Ryder]

ER....great track record run in Mod Sprint last night.....2 full laps is a BIG gain!!

Ya, guess my 3 yr old tires were getting crappy. New tires sure made a difference once I figured out the new gearing. I hope my EDM is ready next wednesday night. Maybe I can run 50 laps with IT! LOL

Later

[ed gaines]

It was Blast last night In SC,Now if I could just figure out the other 3 min 56sec's of the race I may do good.

[racen4]

what a fun track, i hope to see a few more EDM cars out soon and mabe a sprint car in my future :D
i will not make it sunday, work will be in the way :mad:

c ya
Randy

[sps3172]

what a fun track, i hope to see a few more EDM cars out soon

Next Wednesday should be a fun night!!

[smac]

Stewart Wins!!

[ed gaines]

Stewart Wins!!

James Stewart :tire::ha:

[MK Race]

No silly, Jimmy Stewart was an actor.

He means TONY STEWART:thumbsup: :checkeredflag:

[ed gaines]

MK you need to get out more,ask any body who james stewart is:):)

[sps3172]

No silly, Jimmy Stewart was an actor.

He means TONY STEWART:thumbsup: :checkeredflag:

I hope he was joking....everybody knows Bubba!!

[MK Race]

I know who James Stewart is.

[sps3172]

I know who James Stewart is.

You gave in too quick.... :)

[ed gaines]

Smac why no race reports:mad:

[smac]

I was trying to wait until I won a race, but it's starting to look like that may never happen!

Actually. I will try to recap the last few races after this Wed. night.

[overlandovalracer]

I just finished charging some packs. I'm hoping some other people will be there with mini latemodels & 1/10th 4wd latemodels.

Hey smac, I work till 6:30, but should be there by 10 till 7!!!

Jim A.

[sps3172]

I just finished charging some packs. I'm hoping some other people will be there with mini latemodels & 1/10th 4wd latemodels.

Hey smac, I work till 6:30, but should be there by 10 till 7!!!

Jim A.

Hey Jim....glad to hear you're coming out!!

Smac won't see this before tonight but I'll make sure he knows and has you in the computer for 1/18th and 4WD.

See you tonight.

[overlandovalracer]

Hey Jim....glad to hear you're coming out!!

Smac won't see this before tonight but I'll make sure he knows and has you in the computer for 1/18th and 4WD.

See you tonight.


Thanks Steve

[ThisDougsForU]

Mike and I will have our minis out there, and I think Matt is going to try as well.

[sps3172]

Thanks Steve

Just spoke to Smac.....he's confirmed in 4WD with you, Jim.

[overlandovalracer]

Just spoke to Smac.....he's confirmed in 4WD with you, Jim.


Cool! Now I just need to get the thing to turn better...See you all thiss evening!

[overlandovalracer]

had a great time last night, even with my 4wd not being so good. I'll finish the "freshen up" on it correctly & get some foams for it & try again! Thanks to Matt Morton for turning the wrenches on the 4wd. The car got way better, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken *@it! Smac had it COVERED with his XRay. Good show man!

Losi 18th scale class was really fun. I was gonna sell that car, but can't now! Look out Kelm!!! Great run in the feature by the way :checkeredflag:

[DQbeck63]

Sorry I couldn't end up making it over to race the Mini LM last night...how many minis did you endup having over there?

[ThisDougsForU]

We had 4

[StPRacer]

Hi, i'm thinking about getting back into the hobby and this Losi Mini looks pretty exciting and relatively cheap. Unfortunately, Weds. would be out for me. Where can you pick one of these cars up at?

[cmain]

I would goto the track sunday there was a one for sale this wens and Matt morton said he was selling one also.

[MK Race]

You could try Mark Twain, but they would have to order it probably. Checkered Flag in south county might have them too.

[overlandovalracer]

I would goto the track sunday there was a one for sale this wens and Matt morton said he was selling one also.

Yea, Matt made me buy one for this last winter, so I'm gonna make him race his.

The Losi is a great little car, abit loose & wobbley in the fittment of the suspension, but it doesn't seem to matter much. There are many cheap, easy upgrades that make the car much more enjoyable, (threaded shocks, better center link for steering, JR digital steering servo, Mamba 4200kv brushless system... spec system per rules package, etc.)

Jim A.

[DQbeck63]

Hi, i'm thinking about getting back into the hobby and this Losi Mini looks pretty exciting and relatively cheap. Unfortunately, Weds. would be out for me. Where can you pick one of these cars up at?

Checkered Flag in South county has them in stock...I picked one up from there for $169
Gateway RC in collinsville also has them...i think they are $10 higher their
If you cant make wednesdays thats cool...its hard for me to make wednesdays too so just come out on sundays,,,,thats what im gonna have to do

[sps3172]

Checkered Flag in South county has them in stock...I picked one up from there for $169
Gateway RC in collinsville also has them...i think they are $10 higher their
If you cant make wednesdays thats cool...its hard for me to make wednesdays too so just come out on sundays,,,,thats what im gonna have to do

Can't wait to see that Red Bull car in person......I've always liked that color scheme.

[DQbeck63]

Can't wait to see that Red Bull car in person......I've always liked that color scheme.

Thanks...I'm gonna try my best to be there sunday...I wanted to come wednesday but couldn't make it.. Now I just need to figure out how to set up the car and ill be ready to go! This will be my first time ever on the track over there and only my second time ever racing an RC car. Anyone with basic setup advice for the mini latemodel I would love some input!
Thanks,
Matt

[MK Race]

No real trick setup. I run mine with a lot of spring shims in the rear and add shims to the front to get what you need, more or less steering. If you can, run the car on some concrete or asphalt to wear the tires down. Less tread makes for more traction.

P.S. Don't let Doug know the setup secrets.:D

[sps3172]

No real trick setup. I run mine with a lot of spring shims in the rear and add shims to the front to get what you need, more or less steering. If you can, run the car on some concrete or asphalt to wear the tires down. Less tread makes for more traction.

P.S. Don't let Doug know the setup secrets.:D

Kelm, you buying dinner Sunday when you bring home the $100?

[MK Race]

Hot wings for everybody if I win the $100. You might want to eat before you come to track just incase more sprint car come Saturday.

[sps3172]

I imagine "$100 to win" brings out some pretty 'courteous' driving, eh? Maybe it would be worth a trip up just to watch. ;)

I hear M'ville might offer a $200 purse later this year...I will definitely own a new video camera before that one goes down. :thumbsup:

[MK Race]

I haven't seen any really bad sportsmanship at the Money races yet. Actually maybe better driving than a heat race that means nothing.

[sps3172]

I haven't seen any really bad sportsmanship at the Money races yet. Actually maybe better driving than a heat race that means nothing.

We'll see if that's still your story on Sunday ;) :thumbsup:

[low81ryder]

Courteous driving on dirt? LOL hey rubbins racin:D.. Cyas.......Mouse:revs::revs::thumbsup::greenflag:

[overlandovalracer]

Money races or club races, race others how you want to be raced against....Wow, I just sounded like my mom :confused:

[ThisDougsForU]

No real trick setup. I run mine with a lot of spring shims in the rear and add shims to the front to get what you need, more or less steering. If you can, run the car on some concrete or asphalt to wear the tires down. Less tread makes for more traction.

P.S. Don't let Doug know the setup secrets.:D



Ha! Too late Mike your the one who told me how to setup my car in the first place! The other night my car was absolutely terrible and I found out why, I lost rear shock oil in both shocks and both sides were so soft that even looking at it wrong caused the suspension to squat.

[MiniT21]

Had an awesome time today running foams for the first time. I wish i had a little more time when i got there so i could learn how to groove the tires. But i was kinda in a hurry, So thanks to Ron Roy for getting those trued and grooved for me. The car will be better next time, i got a few more things i wanna try on it before next weekend.:thumbsup:

[StPRacer]

OK, i just came up and watched for a little while. It's getting my blood boiling again for some R/C :tire:. (nice to meet you Doug). if i pick that mini for sale at the track, i'll need a trasmitter, what is a nice one to get but not spend a fortune on :confused:? i'm gonna have to talk my wife into this (me disappearing and spending more money; maybe i'll trade the aquarium in the dining room for some R/C :ha:).

[DQbeck63]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped me out at the track toonight. Im still very new to all this stuff (my first time at smac, and only my 2nd night ever driving an rc car)and learning how to set the cars up and all that so the info all you guys gave me tonight helped...but there is still a ton of room for improvement on my part for sure!:ha: Mike thanks alot for running home to get me the suspension part i needed..without that my 1:45 minute drive to get there would have ended with about 20 laps in a heat! You were a lifesaver and alot of help! Doug as always you helped a ton...thanks for the input, and hopefully i stayed out of both of your way as good as I could. Hope to see you guys wednesday!
Matt

[MK Race]

OK, i just came up and watched for a little while. It's getting my blood boiling again for some R/C :tire:. (nice to meet you Doug). if i pick that mini for sale at the track, i'll need a trasmitter, what is a nice one to get but not spend a fortune on :confused:? i'm gonna have to talk my wife into this (me disappearing and spending more money; maybe i'll trade the aquarium in the dining room for some R/C :ha:).


If you buy the car at the track, I'll loan or sell you the Spectrum radio and reciever that comes with those cars.

[Eugene Ryder]

I think the track was int he best shape ever last night! Traction was not a problem at all (it usually isn't anyway) but it was real good last night. So good, in fact, my DD sprint with a 7.5 Tekin Redline as pulling wheelies 5-6 foot out of the corners. Hooked up. If you are thinking about making the trip, tell a friend, load the truck and come down sometime, this place is awesome.

I wanna say good job to Kevin Klyber for qualifing 3rd and winning the deal. His outlaw car is about as good on foams as it is on outdoor rubber tires.

Building my EDM today and tomorrow. Will try to have it ready by wednesday but if not, get ready for next sunday, should be fun.

Still can't believe my sprint went 4.686 fast lap. Just a week ago 4.81 and 4.77 were as fast as I thought the track was gonna be......wrong again. I hope to have the sprinter figured out soon, it's only the second time running this car.

I hope to see ya all again Sunday.

[MiniT21]

If anybody is interested in a mini late model i have one with the losi shocks the mamba pro 4200 system, ball diff, hitec servo, a 1600 and a 1500 battery, and some spare parts i'd let go for $150. I won't race it till next winter and if it could mean getting more entries in the class over at smac, i'll let it go...

[ThisDougsForU]

That's a hell of a deal for anyone looking to get a mini!

If anybody is interested in a mini late model i have one with the losi shocks the mamba pro 4200 system, ball diff, hitec servo, a 1600 and a 1500 battery, and some spare parts i'd let go for $150. I won't race it till next winter and if it could mean getting more entries in the class over at smac, i'll let it go...

[sps3172]

So good, in fact, my DD sprint with a 7.5 Tekin Redline as pulling wheelies 5-6 foot out of the corners.

ER,

It doesn't sound like you're hurting for power but.....how much hotter could you go and still be able to fit a gear on it? Aren't the DD cars harder to deal with in modified?

Good run by the way! I heard you almost went 51.
- SS

[Eugene Ryder]

ER,

It doesn't sound like you're hurting for power but.....how much hotter could you go and still be able to fit a gear on it? Aren't the DD cars harder to deal with in modified?

Good run by the way! I heard you almost went 51.
- SS

I think I can run a 5.5 with a 9-10 pinion and a 96-99 spur. Or I can do 64pitch with a 15/128 or so. I can definately gear a 5.5.......that is what I ran in mod sprint @ the Open Wheel (21/128) so I think running a 5.5 or 6.5 is enough and doable.

Someone gonna post results for Sunday or wednesday sometime? Thought maybe Scott didn't wanna post em. LOL JK Scott.

[sps3172]

I think I can run a 5.5 with a 9-10 pinion and a 96-99 spur. Or I can do 64pitch with a 15/128 or so. I can definately gear a 5.5.......that is what I ran in mod sprint @ the Open Wheel (21/128) so I think running a 5.5 or 6.5 is enough and doable.

What's the tire size with that 21/128 DD 5.5 setup from the open wheel? C&S is a bit longer than Smac, right?

[Eugene Ryder]

What's the tire size with that 21/128 DD 5.5 setup from the open wheel? C&S is a bit longer than Smac, right?

And MY TEKIN is a lot different that the Novak stuff too.

Tires were 2.65" @ the open wheel.

[sps3172]

And MY TEKIN is a lot different that the Novak stuff too.

Tires were 2.65" @ the open wheel.

Thanks, ER. I'll stop with the questions so you can get back to building that EDM!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[ThisDougsForU]

Welp I just got done testing out my MDM for the first time. With the 7.5 it freakin' smokes, and it's the fastest R/C car I've ever had.....I feel bad for you poor marshalls tomorrow night. Keep your heads up:)

[overlandovalracer]

Welp I just got done testing out my MDM for the first time. With the 7.5 it freakin' smokes, and it's the fastest R/C car I've ever had.....I feel bad for you poor marshalls tomorrow night. Keep your heads up:)


Good luck! Take it easy with the wheelies!

Jim A.

[notSoMiniT23]

Good luck! Take it easy with the wheelies!

Jim A.

haha jim, i read your post before you fixed it

[overlandovalracer]

haha jim, i read your post before you fixed it

Yea, I got distracted at stupid work for a minute & well...you read it.

[sps3172]

Yea, I got distracted at stupid work for a minute & well...you read it.

What did I miss?!?!?!?!? :)

[MiniT21]

Who's gonna be there tomorrow night? i might come play with the sprinter again, but want to make sure there will be a decent crowd to run with. :thumbsup:

[sps3172]

Who's gonna be there tomorrow night? i might come play with the sprinter again, but want to make sure there will be a decent crowd to run with. :thumbsup:

I'll be there....not that it helps with your 'sprinter' question :)

I'd predict:

Smac
Lindell
T-Mac
ER
Kevin K
Ed Gaines
Steve Kriete
Todd Blumoff
Ron Roy
The 'Kelminator'

I can tell you who WILL NOT be racing in the sprint class tomorrow night...

Scott Lucas. (Just checking to see if he's paying attention :) )

[MiniT21]

well then, i'm not gonna be able to make it out this sunday so i'll be there tomorrow. If you read this Scott make sure i make it into the computer as i'll probably miss the first round. :thumbsup:

[overlandovalracer]

I'll be there....not that it help's with your 'sprinter' question :)

I'd predict:

Smac
Lindell
T-Mac
ER
Kevin K
Ed Gaines
Steve Kriete
Todd Blumoff
Ron Roy
The 'Kelminator'

I can tell you who WILL NOT be racing in the sprint class tomorrow night...

Scott Lucas. (Just checking to see if he's paying attention :) )

Well said!:ha::ha:

[Eugene Ryder]

I'll be there....not that it helps with your 'sprinter' question :)

I'd predict:

Smac
Lindell
T-Mac
ER Not gonna make it for a change......I will be there sunday. Sorry fella's
Kevin K
Ed Gaines
Steve Kriete
Todd Blumoff
Ron Roy
The 'Kelminator'

I can tell you who WILL NOT be racing in the sprint class tomorrow night...

Scott Lucas. (Just checking to see if he's paying attention :) )

Can't, sorry fella's

[sps3172]

Can't, sorry fella's

We'll catch you Sunday, ER.

Hey, Sprint car class....... Tonight is THE NIGHT!!! It looks like you guys finally get a chance to race for first place (instead of usual 2nd)!!

Now THAT, my friends, is how you TALK SMACK!! :)

[overlandovalracer]

great time racing the mini, maybe next time I'll get the win...;)

Congrats Matt Morton on the great run with the sprintcar!

[MK Race]

Great run with the sprint car Matt.

Mini Latemodel was a blast. Congrats to Doug on your win.:checkeredflag: :thumbsup:

Jim was fast too, racing should be getting better.

[DQbeck63]

Great run with the sprint car Matt.

Mini Latemodel was a blast. Congrats to Doug on your win.:checkeredflag: :thumbsup:

Jim was fast too, racing should be getting better.

Oh you mean it will be getting better if i dont show up to be in everyones way right? LOL!

[overlandovalracer]

Oh you mean it will be getting better if i dont show up to be in everyones way right? LOL!

Nah, you'll be fine, just a matter of more time on the track, & that makes all of us better.

I forgot to thank Kelm for lending me a battery for the second round,(my first of the night). I hope that didn't cause you to have a weak pack in yours for the feature!

[ThisDougsForU]

Yeah the mini feature was alot of fun. All the cars were close together on the lead lap and the final minute was hectic for me to try and do my best to keep the door shut. The racing keeps getting closer in the class, and we are starting to see an influx of new minis to boot:thumbsup:

As for MDM, well it's a bit different than the mini.....my little car normally has 4 wheels on the ground so it drives a little better:D

[sps3172]

Hat's off to Matt.....new track record in Mod Sprint last night. It sure didn't take him long to figure the foam tire thing out, that's for sure.

[notSoMiniT23]

matt should probably just write a book on set ups. period. good job matt.

[MiniT21]

Thanks guys. The car was good, especially being the second race night on the car. Just wish i could make it this Sunday, if the weather does not cooperate with Collinsville I'll be there.

[Eugene Ryder]

Let me be the first to say, Happy Birthday Terry Mac! Man, you are getting old, lol. See ya soon

[sps3172]

Let me be the first to say, Happy Birthday Terry Mac! Man, you are getting old, lol. See ya soon

T-mac needs some 'Team AARP' wraps made for his sprinter.....anyone interested? :)

[Terry (shots) McDonald]

Thanks for the thought Eugene, I appreciate it. As for number one son Scott, watch it buddy I may not be able to ground you any more but I am the guy usually anouncing your race and handling the computer. I am told there is a way to make laps disappear!!!

As a matter of fact, however, the '37 Ford Vintage stock car I am running in the local dirt track circuit does have decals declaring a sponsorship from AARP Racing. Will have the car out for it's first trial run on Friday night June 5th at Belclair Raceway in Belleville.

If I can get my r/c pit crew to supply me with a setup for the car that he has modified for me, maybe I can figure out how to drive it without looking like the old man that I am. I havin't given up yet, I think old guys can still compete.

Terry Mac

[sps3172]

As for number one son Scott, watch it buddy I may not be able to ground you any more but I am the guy usually anouncing your race and handling the computer. I am told there is a way to make laps disappear!!!

Pssst......Scott's ID is 'Smac'.....

- Steve Smith

P.S. ROADTRIP!!!! Who's coming with me to Belclair, next Friday?

P.P.S. I forgot to actually wish you a happy birthday.... Happy Birthday T-mac!!

[overlandovalracer]

HAPPY B'DAY T'MAC! Good luck in the old coupe on friday. I think a road trip to Belleclair is definatley in order!

Jim A.

[ed gaines]

Lets see if I do my math right,Theres not enough candles are a cake BIG enough:D

From what your number one son said he was giving you a new sprint car for your birthday.

[MK Race]

Hey Happy Birthday Old Man. I know a nice little bar in Ohio where I can buy you a drink. Maybe a shot.

[smac]

So which track records will fall tomorrow? There has only been one race day so far this season that at least one track record was not broken!

[sps3172]

So which track records will fall tomorrow? There has only been one race day so far this season that at least one track record was not broken!

58, here I come!!!

Ok....maybe not. :)

[smac]

Tough day at the track today. Light crowd and the traction dropped off more than usual. Most of our race days lately have taken place on rainy or humid days, which has really had a positive effect on traction. Today it was more difficult to keep the moisture in the track as the day went on. With that being said, most of us are not supprised to hear that none of the track records were broken today.

The suprising thing is what you will not see in the results this week. After spending most of the season breaking his own track record in modified sprint Eugene Ryder lost his record on Wed night to Matt Morton when Eugene took the night off. Before racing started today, I told Eugene that the track was drying out too fast and that it did not look like any track records would fall.
What I learned today is to not underestimate Eugene!! In each of the first two rounds while everyone else was struggling with less traction and slower cars, Eugene was on pace to be the first sprint driver to break into the 51 lap barrier including a 51 @ 4:01 late in the 1st qualifier before getting caught up in traffic. He also shattered his own fastest lap on the track in Sprint with a 4.5 lap. Matt Morton currently is the only other driver to break into the 4.6's!

I can't wait to get these guys on the track at the same time and see some real battles!!

[smac]

I guess we will now have to see how Matt Morton can drive a sprint car with a severe limp!! Sounds like he snapped a bone at the Collinsville off road track today! Must be some tough competition out there!!

[Eugene Ryder]

Tough day at the track today. Light crowd and the traction dropped off more than usual. Most of our race days lately have taken place on rainy or humid days, which has really had a positive effect on traction. Today it was more difficult to keep the moisture in the track as the day went on. With that being said, most of us are not supprised to hear that none of the track records were broken today.

The suprising thing is what you will not see in the results this week. After spending most of the season breaking his own track record in modified sprint Eugene Ryder lost his record on Wed night to Matt Morton when Eugene took the night off. Before racing started today, I told Eugene that the track was drying out too fast and that it did not look like any track records would fall.
What I learned today is to not underestimate Eugene!! In each of the first two rounds while everyone else was struggling with less traction and slower cars, Eugene was on pace to be the first sprint driver to break into the 51 lap barrier including a 51 @ 4:01 late in the 1st qualifier before getting caught up in traffic. He also shattered his own fastest lap on the track in Sprint with a 4.5 lap. Matt Morton currently is the only other driver to break into the 4.6's!

I can't wait to get these guys on the track at the same time and see some real battles!!

Records were broken today right? fastest sprinter to date was a 4.686 now its 4.56. This wednesday should be better than today.......Im sure of that, but I wont get to find out. Seems to be this lil dirt race on pay per view that night with some not so bad of drivers running not so slow LM's at a not so popular track in this lil town known as Eldora.

Wish there were more people coming out......I don't know where everyone is.......must be tired from racing saturday night......right Kelm? LOL

I wanna say thanks to Tekin for an awesome speed control/motor combo......who would have thought a 7.5 would run 4.5 sec laps in a sprinter. Hard to believe a 20yr old DD car is still competitive......best $75 I ever spent.

Thanks for another good time.....talk to you all later

[smac]

That car is glued to the track through the corners and launches off of them! It is scarry to think of the laps that you would have turned today if the traction had been good,

If anyone has a way to broadcast The Prelude to a Dream race Wed at the track PLEASE let me know!!

[sps3172]

4.5s??!! Wow!! I should have just made the drive and run my EDM in that heat.

[MiniT21]

Looks like i might not be able to make it out for a few weeks. Had a bad cornering marshalling accident at collinsville yesterday that left my right shin in 3 pieces. I can't drive right now or will i be able to, so unless i get a ride out there i'm not gonna be doing much racing. What a bummer... :(

[smac]

Looks like i might not be able to make it out for a few weeks. Had a bad cornering marshalling accident at collinsville yesterday that left my right shin in 3 pieces. I can't drive right now or will i be able to, so unless i get a ride out there i'm not gonna be doing much racing. What a bummer... :(

Any Illinois racers available for shuttle service?

Sorry about your post there Matt. I hit the "edit" button on your post instead of the "quote" button.

[rcdrtrcr]

Get with me Matt , not sure where you live?

Jeremy

[ThisDougsForU]

Jeremy, can you give me contact info for whomever was selling that 5000 Lipo ?

[rcdrtrcr]

Already sold, sold that night.

Jeremy

[MiniT21]

Jeremy i'm in granite city, it would be pretty far out of your way to come get me and take me up there.

I won't be able to make it tomorrow anyhow as i gotta go to the orthopedic and see what they are gonna do to me.

[sps3172]

Jeremy i'm in granite city, it would be pretty far out of your way to come get me and take me up there.

I won't be able to make it tomorrow anyhow as i gotta go to the orthopedic and see what they are gonna do to me.

Smac could set up a bed at the track for you.....we could contact the Post Office and have your mail sent there. There's always 3 frogs and at least 1 turtle in there to keep you company.

[MiniT21]

lol... knowin me i'd probably go for that. Get all the practice i could need.... :D

[MK Race]

Hey Matt, you thought breaking the track record was so cool you wanted to break something else?

Hope you heal fast.

[MiniT21]

lol... i laughed pretty hard at that one mike. Too bad it didn't turn out as cool as when i broke the track record. I'm pretty sure i screamed like a little girl.:D

And don't worry i'll still be racing through all of this. Just might be cut back some as i'll have to find rides.

[MiniT21]

No trash talk guys? Can't you guys help a crippled fella out. I can't do anything so i stare at this computer screen to see if someone is gonna talk on here. Mike did you give up on the buggy tires yet? you gonna come run foams with us on sunday? I think i got a ride to get up there, If not scott said he's gonna come drag me up there.

[MK Race]

I haven't given up on the buggy tires yet. Joe is going to make me a 6 inch wing so I can run foams.

[MiniT21]

you gonna come out and play on sunday?

[MK Race]

Can't make it this Sunday, my niece is having a graduation party. Not too many of those where Cliff and Mouse come from.:D

[ed gaines]

Scott you need to get Ron's car are tell him to get it out of there its RUSTED BADDDD.

[MiniT21]

rusting from not being used or rusting from being under water? Maybe he can knock the rust off of it this friday... I'll make sure and bring the wire brush

[ed gaines]

rusting from not being used or rusting from being under water? Maybe he can knock the rust off of it this friday... I'll make sure and bring the wire brush

From being around moisture 24/7 for the last week. I'm headed over to MV for some practice,I hear some FAST guys from up north are going to be there tonight also:D

[smac]

Final two nights of foam racing on the hard packed surface this week!

Who will hold the track records and bragging rights??

[notSoMiniT23]

Final two nights of foam racing on the hard packed surface this week!

Who will hold the track records and bragging rights??


Matt

[smac]

Matt
He currently holds the sprint record, but there are a couple of drivers plannin' on breaking it, Matt may have to go even faster to hang on to it.

[ed gaines]

My Car,Driver don't know:D

[smac]

My Car,Driver don't know:D
Ed's Outlaw is very fast!! I had it on a 51 lap pace with 1 minute left before I put it into the infield twice and had to settle for 50.

[MiniT21]

can't run 51 laps with a crutch in the running lane can ya scott? :D i think this can be arranged.

[smac]

can't run 51 laps with a crutch in the running lane can ya scott? :D i think this can be arranged.

Good luck finding your crutches if you turn 51 laps!!

[MiniT21]

lmao... good point. I won't be able to make it out friday as maryville is having there dash for cash that day. And i have a dr's apointment on thursday again, so i might be out the last 2 nights of foam tire racing. :(

[smac]

Track records will fall tonight!!

[philupondez]

Track records will fall tonight!!

Fine, I'll bite....why will track records fall tonight?

[MK Race]

Hey guys I had my personal transponder fall out of my pocket Friday night at Maryville and couldn't find it. They announced that I had lost it but nobody claimed to have found it. Please let me know if somebody is trying to sell one or you see me or my number come up in practice. It has the wires shortened and has no ears.

Thanks.

[Mr.Wolfman]

I'll keep an eye out...but that sucks.
good seeing ya at the track ,,,,,,later

Howwwlllll Wolfman

[low81ryder]

Hey guys I had my personal transponder fall out of my pocket Friday night at Maryville and couldn't find it. They announced that I had lost it but nobody claimed to have found it. Please let me know if somebody is trying to sell one or you see me or my number come up in practice. It has the wires shortened and has no ears.

Thanks.Mikey, we will keep an eye for the transponder. If someone found it please get this back to this guy. Thanks.....Mouse

[Sprocket]

Mike what was the transponders number so we can keep an eye out for it in case someone is trying to use it .

[MK Race]

I'm pretty sure the number is:


4712938

Thanks guys.

[ThisDougsForU]

I've got a transponder for sale guys, pm me and I'll let it go cheap :D

In all seriousness, that sucks Mike. I poked around today on the interwebs but I didn't find any for sale around this area.

[ThisDougsForU]

Sorry if I worded that wrong but I don't actually have a personal transponder for sale. My last comment was supposed to be a joke about me swiping Mike's. I've had several pm's tonight asking how much my PT was so I figured I'd just post to clear that up! My bad!

[MK Race]

It got me at first, then I realized who was posting.



So how much????????????

[StPRacer]

@%^@#%, Doug. i need a PT on the cheap! :ha:

[overlandovalracer]

Went to SMAC last night to watch. I also made a few hot laps with the "old skool" modified, (thanks Don D.). Friday night promises to be a lot of fun! :greenflag:

[SKriete]

So who won Mod Sprint car?

[ThisDougsForU]

Smac won it.

[mjpstl]

I am thinking about joining dirt oval by making my B4 Factory Team Kit into a MDM. Steve at Checkered Flag said that if I was going to get into it, I would have to talk to someone by the name of "Mouse" and call him to get a body made. If you have any setup tips for a MDM, let me know.

[swindellfan]

low81ryder is Mouse's login name. He can hook you up with mdm bodies. PM low81ryder to get ahold of him.

[ThisDougsForU]

I am thinking about joining dirt oval by making my B4 Factory Team Kit into a MDM. Steve at Checkered Flag said that if I was going to get into it, I would have to talk to someone by the name of "Mouse" and call him to get a body made. If you have any setup tips for a MDM, let me know.


Reds on the rear, silvers on the front, let her rip!

[DQbeck63]

Good luck tonight guys...wish i could be out there having some fun! vacation is over and back to work now on weeknights....if you guys run on a sunday or I get a day off during the week ill try to make it out again...the new loose dirt is fun, and fast! :checkeredflag:

mjpstl...the MDM class is fun! Its not hard to switch over to Dirt Oval...Doug can vouch for that...he took his car from being set up for off road and just changed the springs and was the fastest car on the track last week!

[mjpstl]

When I went Wednesday to Checkered Flag, Steve said that when you run MDM, most people run Double Dee's rear and Rounders front. Would it be ok if I ran Rounders front and Hole-Shot rear? Also, is there anyway through here to get a contact of low81ryder?

[ed3165]

When I went Wednesday to Checkered Flag, Steve said that when you run MDM, most people run Double Dee's rear and Rounders front. Would it be ok if I ran Rounders front and Hole-Shot rear? Also, is there anyway through here to get a contact of low81ryder?

This should be the link to his profile here where you can sent him a message. Click here (http://www.dirtoval.com/forums/member.php?u=8090)

[MiniT21]

how about some more of those pictures from the money race? :D:thumbsup:

[ed3165]

how about some more of those pictures from the money race? :D:thumbsup:

Been busy but I will try and get some up very soon.

[ThisDougsForU]

When I went Wednesday to Checkered Flag, Steve said that when you run MDM, most people run Double Dee's rear and Rounders front. Would it be ok if I ran Rounders front and Hole-Shot rear? Also, is there anyway through here to get a contact of low81ryder?


I run Hole Shots on the rear and rounders on the front, and my car is getting close to the track record so I think you'll be fine.

[smac]

Don't forget that racing will be back to Wed and Sun starting this week.
I am also looking at putting another money race together for sprints soon.

[swindellfan]

what is the schedule for sundays? Thank You

[ed3165]

From the Thread at the top of the page says sundays will be like this.

-Doors open at 10AM
-Track open for practice at 11AM
-Racing starts at 2PM

[ThisDougsForU]

Looks like I'm out for this Weds. It's anniversary day with the lady so no racing. I'm going to try and make it on Sunday though.

[MK Race]

Looks like I'm out for this Weds. It's anniversary day with the lady so no racing. I'm going to try and make it on Sunday though.

Come on Doug, it's just an anniversary. How many years? You have to get your priorities in order.

1) Bring her racing with you, it's that bonding thing.
2)Play some nice music on the ride to the track.
3)Get her some of her own wrenches to help you work on the car.
4)Have to share an order of wings from Shirley's.
5)Make sure you both stand at the end of the track so you get lots of dirt in your hair.
6)Now you have to shower when you get home, so she washes your hair and you wash hers.
7)Crap, I forgot what I'd do next when I was your age. At my age, now we would go to bed and SLEEP.

[Denez]

Thinkin about sunday sounds like rain saturday need my fix for the weekend what is the schedule for sunday?

[DQbeck63]

Thinkin about sunday sounds like rain saturday need my fix for the weekend what is the schedule for sunday?


-Doors open at 10AM
-Track open for practice at 11AM
-Racing starts at 2PM

[ThisDougsForU]

Come on Doug, it's just an anniversary. How many years? You have to get your priorities in order.

1) Bring her racing with you, it's that bonding thing.
2)Play some nice music on the ride to the track.
3)Get her some of her own wrenches to help you work on the car.
4)Have to share an order of wings from Shirley's.
5)Make sure you both stand at the end of the track so you get lots of dirt in your hair.
6)Now you have to shower when you get home, so she washes your hair and you wash hers.
7)Crap, I forgot what I'd do next when I was your age. At my age, now we would go to bed and SLEEP.


Hehe Mike if only it was that simple.

[DQbeck63]

Im actually gtting to make it out this wednesday because I hurt my calf and cant hardly walk so im off work for atleast this week.. but im good enough to stand up on the drivers stand :D..so hopefully we get alot of mini's and mdm's to show up! Can't wait till tomorrow night:thumbsup: See you guys then!

[ThisDougsForU]

Anyone racin' today ?

[low81ryder]

Crap, I forgot what I'd do next when I was your age. At my age, now we would go to bed and SLEEP.



LMAO, yep Mikey you a stud muffin :D But i do like my sleep also. Cya budd.....Mouse:revs::revs::thumbsup::greenflag:

[DQbeck63]

Who all is coming out wednesday? Im hoping we get a good field of mini's and MDM's this week...there are usually a good amount of sprints. I had alot of fun last wednesday...hope to see a few more guys this week cuz this track is alot of fun!

[D2_Racing_Team]

I was wondering if i can get some questions answered before i show up, how much is it race for one class and what tires to the mini late models race there?


Thanks

D