NEW DODC SPEC MOTOR (replacement)

[Rob Cutman]

DODC is happy to announce that our new Spec 13.5 and 17.5 motors will now be manufactured and provided by Novak Electronics. These motors will have the same quality and support that Novak has always provided for its products including the 120 day warranty and unrivaled customer service. We expect to have the first motors available around the begining of February.

All of the racers who have the current Spec motor that was handed out at the Open Wheel race in December will be able to trade that motor in, regardless of condition for the new replacement motor. We are working out the logistics of the replacement process but as it stands now those of you with the current motor will be able to either trade it in at Bumps and Jumps or C&S Raceway for an on the spot replacement as soon as they are available, or those of you who are not local to those tracks can send your motor back to Custom Works or Putnam Propulsion at which point you will be shipped the new replacement motor. we will have more details on this process in the next few days.

Obviously this process took much longer to get finalized than we would have liked and I want to thank all of you for your patience in giving us time to provide a viable solution. We feel that taking this approach will allow us to offer the racers a proven product with outstanding customer support.

Thank you
Rob Cutman

[curtisp]

Thank you very much for the update!!!

I'm looking forward to racing with the new motor at the Freeze!

[rj14]

Father Guido sends his thanks for your hard work and due diligence in correcting this issue, and mostly for standing behind your concept while supporting the racers. As he told me " 'dis is very, very good".

[shmeedel]

For those of us that have to purchase motors for the Freeze is there a know price?????

Marc

[sawoff]

Glad to see this motor as the pick now i will get one when they come out now I might have to go to bumps and see if i can knock the wall down there :)

[brockh]

Glad to see this motor as the pick now i will get one when they come out now I might have to go to bumps and see if i can knock the wall down there :)the walls got moved to give the racers more room, you should be able to miss them now

[TallGuy]

is this going to have a sticker like the other spec motor, or is going to be the available from everywhere novak?

[signman501]

For those of us that have to purchase motors for the Freeze is there a know price?????

Marc

Marc, Chris should give you a deal (+extra) because you work so hard for him. Remember that when you call him upstairs!

[k-clark]

is this going to have a sticker like the other spec motor, or is going to be the available from everywhere novak?


Same question...

[markny]

rob what about 17.5 motors purchased ? will they be exchanged also? DODC is happy to announce that our new Spec 13.5 and 17.5 motors will now be manufactured and provided by Novak Electronics. These motors will have the same quality and support that Novak has always provided for its products including the 120 day warranty and unrivaled customer service. We expect to have the first motors available around the begining of February.

All of the racers who have the current Spec motor that was handed out at the Open Wheel race in December will be able to trade that motor in, regardless of condition for the new replacement motor. We are working out the logistics of the replacement process but as it stands now those of you with the current motor will be able to either trade it in at Bumps and Jumps or C&S Raceway for an on the spot replacement as soon as they are available, or those of you who are not local to those tracks can send your motor back to Custom Works or Putnam Propulsion at which point you will be shipped the new replacement motor. we will have more details on this process in the next few days.

Obviously this process took much longer to get finalized than we would have liked and I want to thank all of you for your patience in giving us time to provide a viable solution. We feel that taking this approach will allow us to offer the racers a proven product with outstanding customer support.

Thank you
Rob Cutman

[dkn657]

Thanks Rob for taking your time and doing a good job .This is what is needed in this sport. Don't jump at the first thing that is available. Do what is rite for the sport.
Thanks Donnie

[olderacer]

thanks to rob & all the other commitee for working so hard for us racers!:thumbsup::trophy:

[DirtFords1]

So..........will one have to purchase "new" motors?? or if one has Novak motors already,can they just get teched and approved?? I have 13.5,and 17.5 Pro Stocks.
If these are the motors of choice.........
Thanks Rob

[kipp]

For anyone who doubts the commitment of the DODC crew this should lay it to rest. I think they went above and beyond to correct this issue. The fact they they will be giving out free replacements with what i am sure is a more expensive motor is pretty cool. Im sure you will still have to buy a DODC labeled motor for it to be legal at the DODC events.

[cobra22431]

Kipp I was going to say exacltly the same thing. These guys are doing their very best with this DODC spec class, you cant ask for better all u previous nay sayers!. Thank u so much Rob! I knew this was coming, I let my bud charlie know about the losi motor problem and he came and rescued us so thanks so much to Novakalso, they make a very good very reliable motor. I wont bore u guys again and tell the story of my many many years old novak 5800 that still runs well. When it comes to offroad, losi makes a real good car, I have several of them but I put novaks in um because I am a long time fan of Novak, I did not even think twice about that decision. I have novak 13.5 and 17.5s but I dont see a problem at all with having to get one that has the spec label on it. This is the first time I can see that the spec class could really work unlike the old nicad/nimh/brushed spec that in my opinion never worked and was never fair because of the differance from motor to motr and more so the difference from pack to pack. SMC has done an awesum job supplying lipos with very little difference, if novak can add motors with the same results we will have the best ever spec classes in the world! For anyone who doubts the commitment of the DODC crew this should lay it to rest. I think they went above and beyond to correct this issue. The fact they they will be giving out free replacements with what i am sure is a more expensive motor is pretty cool. Im sure you will still have to buy a DODC labeled motor for it to be legal at the DODC events.

[mizeracing]

Thanks Rob and crew for fixing the problem.

[flying5]

can an existing novak 13.5 be ran?

[DirtFords1]

Flyin5,I'm hoping that racers can possibly use Novaks they already have,or get them teched and approved.Unless a different motor is in the works. Lets keep those fingers crossed..............

[cobra22431]

Dont bet on this, if they we going to do that they could have done the same with the losi. The whole idea of spec is to have motors that are all very close in performance. You are allowed to take appart and "blue print" your own motors but in the spec class no alterations are allowed. Plus they will probably have the spec motors look a bit different than an shelf novak and have a DODC spec label to make easy tech guys that are not up to pace but just to make sure they are legal. The detailed tech usually happens to the fast guys.Just imagine if they had to do a detailed spec to every motor u and others have, just so they could put a dodc label on it. That would take tons of time and cost a lot of bucks. If Novak does as good a job on the motor as SMC did on the battery it will be worth it to have a few extra motors. You could even sell the other motors and use the spec instead. I am now pushing for my local club to accept the DODC motor as legal and then im gonna sell my qty2 13.5 off the shelf novaks. There is a big market for a good used brushless motor so I dont understand what the fuss is about having to buy a spec motor. If you ask me the cost is well worth the close spec racing this can produce. I have been arround the hobby a very long time and this new spec class is the best thing to happen since the spektrum and personal transponder came out! ahh no more worry about channels and who still has my track transponder in their car LOL Flyin5,I'm hoping that racers can possibly use Novaks they already have,or get them teched and approved.Unless a different motor is in the works. Lets keep those fingers crossed..............

[Doug D]

Flyin5,I'm hoping that racers can possibly use Novaks they already have,or get them teched and approved.Unless a different motor is in the works. Lets keep those fingers crossed..............

I doubt it, the Losi DODC Motors had different color cans and DODC Labels, for the ease of tech. I don't agree with allowing regular novak motors to be teched and allowed to run, logistically I think that would be a nightmare. I wouldn't sell all of your Novak 13.5's, your Novaks will still be good to practice with.

[Todd Putnam]

Only DODC-labeled Novak motors will be considered legal.

Unfortunatley, there will not be any program to send in an existing Novak motor for approval.

[Todd Putnam]

rob what about 17.5 motors purchased ? will they be exchanged also?

Yes, the Losi-based DODC 17.5's can be exchanged for a Novak as well...:thumbsup:

[flying5]

thanks for the info todd all i needed to know.

[glgraphix]

Very Good news to here. I am a Novak man myself, so I will be right at home.
Thanks to all the DODC rule makers for their hard work to fix the existing issue, and solution :thumbsup:
Kevin

[DirtFords1]

Will the new motors be based off of the SS Pro motors or is Novak using another type???
Thanks TP for the heads up,was worth the asking anyhow.............;)

[FossilRC]

So with this new rule, now all the people that just bought new Novak 13.5 motors to run at the Freeze will now have to buy a labeled motor. Chris made that decision so people could start getting ready for his race. Does this hardley seem fair?:checkeredflag::tire:

[curtisp]

So with this new rule, now all the people that just bought new Novak 13.5 motors to run at the Freeze will now have to buy a labeled motor. Chris made that decision so people could start getting ready for his race. Does this hardley seem fair?:checkeredflag::tire:

From my understanding...you can still run that Novak 13.5 at the Freeze this year. If you would rather have a DODC motor...then sell the new that you have...and replace it with a DODC motor. There are plenty of others out there in the r/c hobby that would be interested in a Novak 13.5. There are oval racers that don't race at the races that require the DODC motors...there are racers that don't race D.O. There are many opportunities to sell it. Heck...if you haven't used it yet...return it.

[AJS]

I think this is a silly rule, if you have a Novak motor already, why not make them legal, tons of people already have them and you are just forcing them to by a new motor.

They are all Novak motors, the only difference will be the sticker, I'll buy a sticker instead of a motor.

As for teching each Novak 13.5, don't you think that if someone is doing something funny, they can do it to the DODC just as easily. I have raced Novak Brushless motors since they became available, the performance motor to motor is very close and they last forever.

I guess the same situation applies to the 3200 SMC battery, they have been out for a long time and several have already purchased them, why should you have to buy another one, just because it has a different sticker on them.

I think that some common sense needs to be applied.

[signman501]

I have never seen so much whinning about a $90 motor. You have to have the DODC spec motor to run the major race's that require it. That's the way it is. Sell the non-spec motor or just buy another. Most of us have several motors in the tool box anyway so just have one spec motor for major races.

[Doug D]

I think this is a silly rule, if you have a Novak motor already, why not make them legal, tons of people already have them and you are just forcing them to by a new motor.

They are all Novak motors, the only difference will be the sticker, I'll buy a sticker instead of a motor.

As for teching each Novak 13.5, don't you think that if someone is doing something funny, they can do it to the DODC just as easily. I have raced Novak Brushless motors since they became available, the performance motor to motor is very close and they last forever.

I guess the same situation applies to the 3200 SMC battery, they have been out for a long time and several have already purchased them, why should you have to buy another one, just because it has a different sticker on them.

I think that some common sense needs to be applied.


AJS - Common sense has been applied, the DODC is a rules package to standardize Dirt Oval racing and create a true Spec Class. The DODC motors will probably be a different can color with the DODC Label for the ease of tech, same with the SMC Batteries. You can still use your 13.5's to practice.

Weren't all these complaints and questions already heard and answered months ago, before the U.S. Open Wheel Champs???

[Bulldog_Wally14]

Ok, I'll explain this for like the 400th time.

One of the selling points of the entire DODC program is that the batts and motors will only be available to tracks and LHSs that support dirt oval racing. This way the shops do not have to compete with the distributors who have store fronts like Great Planes (Tower) and Horizon. It will allow the tracks/shops to maybe make a few extra bucks and stay in business...so we all have a place to race.

Talk to your track or LHS owner and ask him/her how many times they have heard "I can buy this for $5 less at Tower".....I bet more times than they care to think about.

[kipp]

thanks paul!! i cant remember ever seeing a tower hobbies or horizon hobby banner hanging in support of a dirt oval event.

[solly]

thanks paul!! i cant remember ever seeing a tower hobbies or horizon hobby banner hanging in support of a dirt oval event.

They sponsor all the Dreamworld events

[activethunderrc]

wow like man i havent seen them in my dream world - they must have better stuff man -
chong

[rj14]

wow like man i havent seen them in my dream world - they must have better stuff man -
chong

not your dream world...... The Dreamworld (copyright, trademark, Solly's Cato RC Dreamworld Inc.)

[activethunderrc]

is that like a new club man

[AJS]

Sorry if I am a little slow on the uptake here. I'm just trying to understand how the Novak motor or the SMC battery is different with a different sticker on it or it's a different color. I do buy the majority of my stuff from my local hobby shop, when I can.

I'm not trying to start a war on this thread, I think I'm trying to look out for the guys who race on a very tight budget and can't afford a new battery or motor. I would think that the local race tracks won't blindly accept the DODC rules, and I do understand the need for standardization, but it is still a chevy no matter what color it is.

I also understand that most of the people on a tight budget probably will not travel to a large event, so it doesn't make any difference unless their local track decides to follow DODC rules to the letter, so it's probably a mute point anyway.

Thanks for the responses.

[solly]

is that like a new club man


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm88/solly4444/Dreamworld.jpg

[activethunderrc]

wow man thats like a cool club - can i get on the list -

[FossilRC]

You know, I have to agree with AJS. A Novak is a Novak, and if someone would choose to cheat it really won't make a difference what label is on the motor or batt. And the problem is most of the tracks are going to run DODC rules, so in order to keep racing people are going to have to buy motors and batts. I think Spec racing is good, but it should be kept reasonable to get new people into the hobby.

[kipp]

Sorry if I am a little slow on the uptake here. I'm just trying to understand how the Novak motor or the SMC battery is different with a different sticker on it or it's a different color. I do buy the majority of my stuff from my local hobby shop, when I can.

I'm not trying to start a war on this thread, I think I'm trying to look out for the guys who race on a very tight budget and can't afford a new battery or motor. I would think that the local race tracks won't blindly accept the DODC rules, and I do understand the need for standardization, but it is still a chevy no matter what color it is.

I also understand that most of the people on a tight budget probably will not travel to a large event, so it doesn't make any difference unless their local track decides to follow DODC rules to the letter, so it's probably a mute point anyway.

Thanks for the responses.

you can run anything you want unless its a DODC event or series. if you go to a race that follows the DODC rules package then you will have to run a DODC battery and motor. the reason you must use a DODC motor and battery is the whole reason behind the DODC concept. its to keep everybody on a equal playing field and to avoid the costs of the next best thing that comes along. the DODC batteries and motors are guaranteed to stay the same for at least a couple years therefor eliminating the costs of upgrading to the next best thing that comes out. most of the complaints ive heard so far is the 89.00 price on the 3200 DODC lipo battery. keep in mind that this is a quality lipo battery pack with a 28C rating. these batteries are tested and are all as equal as they can possibly be. these motors and batteries will be sold throught shops and tracks that support dirt oval and the DODC rules package. this is to help to support the people that support dirt oval rc racing and the DODC rules package. im sure you can go on ebay and get a 5000 battery pack cheap if you look hard enough but be sure to check the C rating. you get what you pay for. the whole DODC rules package is an effort to control the ever rising costs of racing rc cars on a competitive level. if we keep it affordable then more people can enjoy the hobby without having to spend tons of money to keep up with the next best motor or battery that comes out every few months. i hope this explains it !!!

[rj14]

Ok, one last time guys.......

The DODC Spec motor will only be available from tracks with shops for the betterment and livelyhood of the Dirt Oval community. It isn't rocket science here people. When you buy a DODC Spec Motor you are directly supporting Dirt Oval racing and unifying the sport and classes across the country.

Get it yet?

Don't want to sound mean but they are trying to preserve our form of racing. Buying a Novak motor doesn't support our dwindling tracks, But buying a DODC Spec Motor by Novak does.

[curtisp]

Sorry if I am a little slow on the uptake here. I'm just trying to understand how the Novak motor or the SMC battery is different with a different sticker on it or it's a different color. I do buy the majority of my stuff from my local hobby shop, when I can.

I'm not trying to start a war on this thread, I think I'm trying to look out for the guys who race on a very tight budget and can't afford a new battery or motor. I would think that the local race tracks won't blindly accept the DODC rules, and I do understand the need for standardization, but it is still a chevy no matter what color it is.

I also understand that most of the people on a tight budget probably will not travel to a large event, so it doesn't make any difference unless their local track decides to follow DODC rules to the letter, so it's probably a mute point anyway.

Thanks for the responses.


Jerry,

Do you plan on going to any National events? The Freeze and the Open Wheel are the two BIG ones that quickly come to my mind. If you don't, and if you plan on racing at your local tracks, this is probably a non-issue for you.

I'm not sure where you are racing, but seeing that you are in Iowa, there is Brinks Speedway near Decorah, IA (they do not follow the DODC rules), and also Tea's Raceway in Rochester, MN (they do not follow the DODC rules). Both are great tracks to race at!

Where are you racing? I'm always interested in finding a new track to try. Does your home track use the DODC rules?

Curt

[Bulldog_Wally14]

Jerry,

Do you plan on going to any National events? The Freeze and the Open Wheel are the two BIG ones that quickly come to my mind. If you don't, and if you plan on racing at your local tracks, this is probably a non-issue for you.

I'm not sure where you are racing, but seeing that you are in Iowa, there is Brinks Speedway near Decorah, IA (they do not follow the DODC rules), and also Tea's Raceway in Rochester, MN (they do not follow the DODC rules). Both are great tracks to race at!

Where are you racing? I'm always interested in finding a new track to try. Does your home track use the DODC rules?

Curt

Just imagine for one second...if all tracks across the country would participate in the DODC program. Heck you could race anywhere in the country and probably only have to change gears & tires!

[curtisp]

Just imagine for one second...if all tracks across the country would participate in the DODC program. Heck you could race anywhere in the country and probably only have to change gears & tires!


That would be cool. :thumbsup:

Now...WAKE UP!!!

I think you were dreaming. ;)

[Bulldog_Wally14]

That would be cool. :thumbsup:

Now...WAKE UP!!!

I think you were dreaming. ;)

There is no reason that this shouldn't happen. The rules are in place and any track can adopt them. The tracks just need to grow a pair and take control of their program...and not let the inmates run the asylum.

[WYD]

There is no reason that this shouldn't happen. The rules are in place and any track can adopt them. The tracks just need to grow a pair and take control of their program...and not let the inmates run the asylum.Taking control is cool but if you don't have your locals supporting that choice your in big trouble. It takes both parties to make it work.

[BrianD]

One thing to keep in mind with the DODC spec parts is that they won’t be selling for an overinflated price. Will they be the bottom dollar least expensive motor to be had? probably not, but they will be selling at a competitive reasonable price. Look at the Openwheel this year, motor, battery, and entry fee were what? $135 total! Granted that was just an introductory price to help ease the racer’s wallet but its proof that the programs put in place were done so with the racers in mind. Along with that goes the programs to help the tracks out that support the hobby we all love. Unless we are all going to race weekly at Solly’s RC Dreamworld or Din Ball’s EBay RC complex, we all need to work to help our local tracks out.

Will this program alone save a track, probably not but it helps and every little bit does. Some weekly tracks may even work with you and your current Novak for a little while until you can get your hands on a spec motor, talk to the promoter and see. When it’s time to buy a new motor buy a new motor or your going to a big race, just buy that 13.5 dodc motor he has sitting on his shelf and say “thank you for giving us a place to race.”

[rj14]

Unless we are all going to race weekly at Solly’s RC Dreamworld or Din Ball’s EBay RC complex, we all need to work to help our local tracks out.

please.... Din Ball's is a dive, they don't even have running water. Solly's Cato RC Dreamworld has valet parking, not even the same league!

[glgraphix]

please.... Din Ball's is a dive, they don't even have running water. Solly's Cato RC Dreamworld has valet parking, not even the same league!
Hahaha, thats funny :rolleyes:

[sarbubzim1127]

If you have warranty issue who will honor the warranty, will it be Novak or someone else? The reason i ask if you send a motor in now for warranty you do not get your same motor returned, Will the DODC be replaced with a DODC motor?

[Bulldog_Wally14]

Taking control is cool but if you don't have your locals supporting that choice your in big trouble. It takes both parties to make it work.

Anyone who is childish enough to quit racing because of a motor & battery rule....well, maybe they need to cash in their RC equipment and find a hobby that requires a few less brain cells.

No one will quit racing over this.

[Team HHS]

I have a small issue.

Here in Ohio, Crazy Boys doesn't have an on-site hobby shop. Jerry Flynn from OHP basically brings a hobby shop to the track. Will he be able to get these motors and batteries for us to run?

We have been running a 13.5 class since the OW, trying to support these rules. With the delay in figuring out the motor deal, we were forced to use an open motor rule. So now 4 weeks later, are we supposed to change that again? If we do where will we buy local to support our track? Is it fair to OHP that since he can't get these motors and batteries, we just screw him and go with the spec motors and batteries?

Sombody please explain how this helps MY local track.

George

[KUSTOM-1]

[quote=sprint5h;281045]I have a small issue.

Here in Ohio, Crazy Boys doesn't have an on-site hobby shop. Jerry Flynn from OHP basically brings a hobby shop to the track. Will he be able to get these motors and batteries for us to run?

We have been running a 13.5 class since the OW, trying to support these rules. With the delay in figuring out the motor deal, we were forced to use an open motor rule. So now 4 weeks later, are we supposed to change that again? If we do where will we buy local to support our track? Is it fair to OHP that since he can't get these motors and batteries, we just screw him and go with the spec motors and batteries?

Sombody please explain how this helps MY local track.

George[/quote
The object is to put together a National set of rules for tracks across the country to follow and adopt, and use as they please.

[Team HHS]

Ok, I'll explain this for like the 400th time.

One of the selling points of the entire DODC program is that the batts and motors will only be available to tracks and LHSs that support dirt oval racing. This way the shops do not have to compete with the distributors who have store fronts like Great Planes (Tower) and Horizon. It will allow the tracks/shops to maybe make a few extra bucks and stay in business...so we all have a place to race.

Talk to your track or LHS owner and ask him/her how many times they have heard "I can buy this for $5 less at Tower".....I bet more times than they care to think about.


UM....

[kipp]

George, The spec class motors and batteries were never intended to support the hobby shops.
ok, im lost. what do you think they support?

[KDarc]

I am more upset about the spec tire coming than the battery and motor! At least SMC and Novak are top shelf. But Bolink hard greens!!! Where are we going to find them?

[Doug D]

I am more upset about the spec tire coming than the battery and motor! At least SMC and Novak are top shelf. But Bolink hard greens!!! Where are we going to find them?

Huh.....for the DODC???

Although, truth be told I would love to go to a spec tire as well, then I and others won't have to buy a few different compounds to run.....BRING IT ON!

I really love the whole spec racing concept, Traxxas Slashes are currently the hot item around my way, and a lot of new racers are showing up! Its simple Slash Spec....you run how the truck comes out of the box, you can change radio and gearing, shock oil, etc..but truck must remain box stock. Its truly a test of set-up and driving.

[activethunderrc]

please.... Din Ball's is a dive, they don't even have running water. Solly's Cato RC Dreamworld has valet parking, not even the same league!
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什麼是我的肚臍的意思？

yo man im in for the dream world - do they have the realy cool lizards there - far out man

[Doug D]

Anybody realize, we are only 10 months away until the U.S. Open Wheel Champs 09..:thumbsup::checkeredflag::revs:

[sarbubzim1127]

So your telling me that this supports the hobby shops and tracks that go with the DODC rules. What about entry fees? It dosnt sound like its for the racer but for DODC. Lets quit making brown carpet and make real Dirt tracks that conditions will change and that is a real cheap way to equal everything. JMO

[Doug D]

Dinball for sure!

[cobra22431]

You must have been ( tired ) when u read the rules LOL I am more upset about the spec tire coming than the battery and motor! At least SMC and Novak are top shelf. But Bolink hard greens!!! Where are we going to find them?

[BrianD]

If you have warranty issue who will honor the warranty, will it be Novak or someone else? The reason i ask if you send a motor in now for warranty you do not get your same motor returned, Will the DODC be replaced with a DODC motor?

Rob cited Novak’s customer service as being one of the key reasons for choosing Novak to provide the motors. Reading into that statement I would think Novak would honor warranty of the product.

[dylan]

Rob cited Novak’s customer service as being one of the key reasons for choosing Novak to provide the motors. Reading into that statement I would think Novak would honor warranty of the product.


i think his question is will it come back with the sticker. novak doesn't fix your motor right away the grab one that has already been repaired and send it.

[freeloader Rob]

What, hard tires? I will make DW buy the stupid motor and battery to go racing if we all have to run hard tires. Are floppers legal in the Dreamworld?

[markny]

where is the spec tire mentioned?



I am more upset about the spec tire coming than the battery and motor! At least SMC and Novak are top shelf. But Bolink hard greens!!! Where are we going to find them?

[BrianD]

where is the spec tire mentioned?


It wasn't

[solly]

What, hard tires? I will make DW buy the stupid motor and battery to go racing if we all have to run hard tires. Are floppers legal in the Dreamworld?

floppers are legal in the vintage class. the stuff we run at The Dreamworld is very advanced. BTW, vintage EDM races on Wednesday nights, 23rd floor.

[rj14]

So your telling me that this supports the hobby shops and tracks that go with the DODC rules. What about entry fees? It dosnt sound like its for the racer but for DODC. Lets quit making brown carpet and make real Dirt tracks that conditions will change and that is a real cheap way to equal everything. JMO

you don't get out to many tracks do you? every track except the Dreamworld (which always has the perfect surface) changes as they day goes on. :confused:

[sarbubzim1127]

you don't get out to many tracks do you? every track except the Dreamworld (which always has the perfect surface) changes as they day goes on. :confused:


Your right watering it when it gets to lose is changing it

[solly]

you don't get out to many tracks do you? every track except the Dreamworld (which always has the perfect surface) changes as they day goes on. :confused:


Your right watering it when it gets to lose is changing it


Tracks are going to do what they feel the racers want, i'm sure they don't want to piss everyone off and lose people. Not everyone is going to agree to what is "best", jsut because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

[activethunderrc]

yo man where is this dream world rc complex - i have to check it out - the PERFECT SURFACE - this i have to try - by vintage edm are you talking back in the 50's al tasnady days - whats on the 13th floor - i herd it was a bar - and freddy hides in the basement

[solly]

yo man where is this dream world rc complex - i have to check it out - the PERFECT SURFACE - this i have to try - by vintage edm are you talking back in the 50's al tasnady days - whats on the 13th floor - i herd it was a bar - and freddy hides in the basement

there is a bar on every floor, im not sure where you heard this crap about just the 13th floor,

The Dream world is in Cato

The vintage class is basically what everyone else is running weekly now. The Dreamworld is highly advanced. How advanced do you ask? Last years Daytona 500 was actually run on the 30th floor of The Dreamworld last year, not in Florida.

[rj14]

there is a bar on every floor, im not sure where you heard this crap about just the 13th floor,

The Dream world is in Cato

The vintage class is basically what everyone else is running weekly now. The Dreamworld is highly advanced. How advanced do you ask? Last years Daytona 500 was actually run on the 30th floor of The Dreamworld last year, not in Florida.



You should tell him about the R&................

Oops, sorry I forgot.

[Todd Putnam]

If you have warranty issue who will honor the warranty, will it be Novak or someone else? The reason i ask if you send a motor in now for warranty you do not get your same motor returned, Will the DODC be replaced with a DODC motor?

Novak will be labeling and offering their 120 day warranty for the DODC motors. If you send in a defective Novak motor with a DODC label, and it is repaired/replaced, it will be returned with a DODC label. :thumbsup:

[Fargo Flash]

Just imagine for one second...if all tracks across the country would participate in the DODC program. Heck you could race anywhere in the country and probably only have to change gears & tires!

I think the tracks in our part of the country (MN/IA) have taken a wait and see attitude about the new rules. DODC body rules have been implemented for many of the classes....but the motor and battery rules seemed too much too soon for our area. We have A LOT of racers that are still having fun racing with brushed motors and nickel metal batteries. If we had chosen to follow all of the DODC rules I promise you our car counts would not be as good as they have been this winter. Perhaps in another year that older equipment will be worn out and there will be more reasons to implement the DODC rules. In our area it was simply a case of too much too soon....

Plus....by waiting a bit hopefully some of these issues (like the spec motor) will be resolved.

Is there really thought of a spec tire or is that a bad joke? I can see allowing each track to mandate a spec compound (although I certainly don't want to police that rule) but show me one tire that works everywhere! Next thing this will be like the Hoosier vs Goodyear battle that messed up dirt late model racing for a couple years!

Colin

[sarbubzim1127]

Thanks Todd

[Zepp70]

Where can we buy the new DODC motor and battery? Also how much?

Thanks
Bryan :beer:

[Todd Putnam]

New motors due to arrive in 2 weeks.

You can contact me at the shop M-F, 9-5 EST.

We, along with 2 local shops have the DODC batteries in stock.

Thanks,
Todd Putnam
Putnam Propulsion
518-452-0422

[Doug D]

Todd - Check PM's please.

Thanks, Doug.

[nashrcracer]

so got a guy that wants to run a dodc spec motor against a regular 13.5 class is there an advantage to that for him? or is the motor truely a regular 13.5 with a sticker that is held to a tighter middle of the line tolerance? could you run a dodc motor in a roar nation event?

[Rob Cutman]

The DODC motor is a perfectly roar legal motor. It is legal and will be competetive with any other roar legal motors.

Rob