Slider Rules

[twisted]

i know some were asking me last sunday exactly what and where the losi slider rules were. i knew matt had posted them i just had to dig a bit.here they are guys.


-Losi Mini Slider STOCK Class:
(1) Must use stock body/cage/wing
(2) Must use all stock plastic suspension and tranny pieces
(3) For added durability, Ball diffs and titanium tierods are allowed. Other components may also be added to this list, depending on whether or not any issues arise.
(4) Must use stock motor, Electronics and tires
(5) 1500 limit on batteries.
(6) No drilling or modifying the chassis of any kind.

-Losi Mini Slider MOD Class:
(1) Must use stock body/cage/wing
(2) BSR, Losi, and Associated foams are allowed
(3) Any 5400 equivalent brushless motor is allowed
(4) 1500mah limit on batteries. NO LIPOS
(5) Ball Diffs, CVDs, Titanium tierods and hingepins, and aluminum shocks are all allowed. We are still trying to limit hopups in this class to help keep cost, however aftermarket parts in high stress areas are tolerated.

[beastman]

what kind of turn out is this class getting? it seems like a affordable way for me to start in on racing some electric before my nitro season starts

[twisted]

last week they had 5 or 6 in both stock and mod sliders.

[Speed]

This class is awsome to watch while raceing. At Walt's Hobby on their carpet track these things fly.

[beastman]

what about aluminum a-arms/ bulkheads and steering components, i also came across a carbon fiber chassis i was willing to try but was unsure if it would violate rules?

[twisted]

i guess you can run aluminum arms and what not as i know one guy is.

[markny]

are they running these in the dirt or carpet? if dirt are they allowing foam tires?













i guess you can run aluminum arms and what not as i know one guy is.

[dylan]

are they running these in the dirt or carpet? if dirt are they allowing foam tires?


dirt

[markny]

foam tires ?


dirt

[markny]

280 or 300





foam tires ?

[RCRACR20]

foams are allowed in the mod class. 5.4kv brushless motors may be run in this class

rubber tires in the stock class. kit motors in the stock class as well

[markny]

mat what is a kit motor?? the car comes with the 280 motor i thought i read 300 motor is allowed? matt what is the price for cvd's?




foams are allowed in the mod class. 5.4kv brushless motors may be run in this class

rubber tires in the stock class. kit motors in the stock class as well

[twisted]

mat what is a kit motor?? the car comes with the 280 motor i thought i read 300 motor is allowed? matt what is the price for cvd's?


the cvds are cheap, 20 ish and the stock motor is a 280 size.

[RCRACR20]

CVD's are $15.37

Kit motor is 280 size. The Losi one is the only one allowed.

[twisted]

CVD's are $15.37

Kit motor is 280 size. The Losi one is the only one allowed.

matt you might want to add if it isnt a stock motor its a mod motor and you will be in the mod class.

and about hoagie asking about hocks and you saying that only losi upgrades were allowed, says nothing about that in the rules...

(5) Ball Diffs, CVDs, Titanium tierods and hingepins, and aluminum shocks are all allowed. We are still trying to limit hopups in this class to help keep cost, however aftermarket parts in high stress areas are tolerated.

[RCRACR20]

matt you might want to add if it isnt a stock motor its a mod motor and you will be in the mod class.

and about hoagie asking about hocks and you saying that only losi upgrades were allowed, says nothing about that in the rules...

(5) Ball Diffs, CVDs, Titanium tierods and hingepins, and aluminum shocks are all allowed. We are still trying to limit hopups in this class to help keep cost, however aftermarket parts in high stress areas are tolerated.

He was asking about in the stock class Geo. That list is under the rules for the mod class.

I really wish we had made the rule box stock and nothing but box stock for the stock class because all of this would have been avoided.

[solly]

keeping them box stock would have made the rules easiest, but why not run this class like any other "stock" class? Seems like it would be easier that way rather than picking and choosing what parts are allowed.

[ScaryLarry]

I think you should leave the stock rules, as is. Any more changes are just going to complicate the issue. As far as making them like another "stock" class, What class is Stock? The Mini Slider is a "spec" factory racer. The other "stock" classes are a run what you brung car, except for weights and measures, motor, body, etc, you can pretty much do what you want. I have three and none are the same. To make the Mini's like that, would just make another expensive class of racing. Save that stuff for the mod race cars, Leave the "stock" class as is; for the next generation to get started. And for the guys who just want to have fun.

[solly]

I think you should leave the stock rules, as is. Any more changes are just going to complicate the issue. As far as making them like another "stock" class, What class is Stock? The Mini Slider is a "spec" factory racer. The other "stock" classes are a run what you brung car, except for weights and measures, motor, body, etc, you can pretty much do what you want. I have three and none are the same. To make the Mini's like that, would just make another expensive class of racing. Save that stuff for the mod race cars, Leave the "stock" class as is; for the next generation to get started. And for the guys who just want to have fun.


Like I said, leaving them box stock would be the easiest, but theyve already allowed changes.

If the mini slider was made to be kept as a "spec" racer, why did they make upgrades for it? I understand the reasoning behind tracks keeping them box stocks, its a pretty inexpensive class to get into. On the other hand, in this area, the class seems to be filled with mostly experienced racers.

The "stock" rules for the other classes seem to be working just fine.

[twisted]

He was asking about in the stock class Geo. That list is under the rules for the mod class.

I really wish we had made the rule box stock and nothing but box stock for the stock class because all of this would have been avoided.

ah my bad. if anything i think solly is dead on but they are fine as is. next season maybe some adjustments?

[twisted]

I think you should leave the stock rules, as is. Any more changes are just going to complicate the issue. As far as making them like another "stock" class, What class is Stock? The Mini Slider is a "spec" factory racer. The other "stock" classes are a run what you brung car, except for weights and measures, motor, body, etc, you can pretty much do what you want. I have three and none are the same. To make the Mini's like that, would just make another expensive class of racing. Save that stuff for the mod race cars, Leave the "stock" class as is; for the next generation to get started. And for the guys who just want to have fun.

the slider wasnt marketed as a spec car, its what most of the racers have made them.losi has even said they ran them mod when they were in prototype form. Ron Rossetie talks about it here on dirt oval.

[RCRACR20]

ah my bad. if anything i think solly is dead on but they are fine as is. next season maybe some adjustments?

yup, we will make adjustments. As usual, we will take input from racers, along with what we've learned over the course of the fall/winter.

[ScaryLarry]

the slider wasnt marketed as a spec car, its what most of the racers have made them.losi has even said they ran them mod when they were in prototype form. Ron Rossetie talks about it here on dirt oval.
It may not be a spec car, and yes Losi did R and D with mod parts, thats part of R and D. The car in the stores is what R and D came up with for an end product. That being said the only change that should be made to the "stock" class should be for durability issues, ball diffs, tie rods and another part that may have a high failure rate. This will still keep it fun and affordable for the newbies and the guys looking for close inexpensive racing.

[twisted]

It may not be a spec car, and yes Losi did R and D with mod parts, thats part of R and D. The car in the stores is what R and D came up with for an end product. That being said the only change that should be made to the "stock" class should be for durability issues, ball diffs, tie rods and another part that may have a high failure rate. This will still keep it fun and affordable for the newbies and the guys looking for close inexpensive racing.

losi still races them mod.i have no problem with the people looking to race em stock...i just would like to see 2 classes. no need to single anyone one out.

you have stock and spec mixed up in my honest opinion.

[ScaryLarry]

losi still races them mod.i have no problem with the people looking to race em stock...i just would like to see 2 classes. no need to single anyone one out.

you have stock and spec mixed up in my honest opinion.
I don't think I have it mixed up. If you wish to make modifications beyond what is considered stock by the current rules, you're racing modified. It's a choice. Stock or modified. As far as the existing stock rules, people think stock is "box stock" Ok. You could consider it an error to add ball diffs and tie rods. The damage is done, don't make it worse, by making more changes. Two wrongs don't make a right, leave well enough alone. Leave stock as is (by the rules as they exist) and any thing else is a modified...But that is just my Opinion. Be happy

[twisted]

I don't think I have it mixed up. If you wish to make modifications beyond what is considered stock by the current rules, you're racing modified. It's a choice. Stock or modified. As far as the existing stock rules, people think stock is "box stock" Ok. You could consider it an error to add ball diffs and tie rods. The damage is done, don't make it worse, by making more changes. Two wrongs don't make a right, leave well enough alone. Leave stock as is (by the rules as they exist) and any thing else is a modified...But that is just my Opinion. Be happy

i agree with ya dude and iam happy. can i ask you this ? when you go racing what separates the classes ? theres drivers skills and motors. stock runs stock motors, mod runs, well mod....its simple and works, why should it be any different for sliders ? im not say change them from what they currently are but heck i don't run the place just race there and occasionally asked for my input.

[ScaryLarry]

i agree with ya dude and iam happy. can i ask you this ? when you go racing what separates the classes ? theres drivers skills and motors. stock runs stock motors, mod runs, well mod....its simple and works, why should it be any different for sliders ? im not say change them from what they currently are but heck i don't run the place just race there and occasionally asked for my input.
Well take a look at the EDMs. You have your choise of chassis, front clip, tranny, etc. So long as the car fits weights and measures, has 3 gears inthe tranny, and what ever motor is in the class, your golden. No one specific car. The Losi is specific, you don't get to pick and choose you parts unless you plan on racing mods. That the only reason to leave the Losi as is. You're starting with one platform, just stay with it. Oh by the way when I'm on the track, most people don't think it's racing...