Putnam Dirt Oval Kits To Be Released

[Todd Putnam]

We are excited to announce that we will be offering both of our cars in various kit forms ("Stages") in the near future. We are offering our kits in various "Stages" to better accommodate our customers, so you will be able to buy exactly what you want, and exactly what you need- in a kit form.

-All of our chassis plates are cut from our Proprietary Putnam "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber-This is our own proprietary weave of carbon fiber sheets that we spent over 18 months testing and developing...We do not cut our chassis plates out of generic, standard woven sheets like others do.
Our proprietary layup of our carbon fiber sheets offer a certain degree of torsional flex while still offering increased structural integrity (less flex) front to rear. This is something we have invested a lot of time and money into numerous, ongoing revisions and testing to achieve the best handling, most consistent car available...to offer our customers yet another advantage over the competition.

The various Stages we will be offering our cars are:

-"Stage 1": Proprietary "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber chassis conversions that we currently offer

-"Stage 2": Stage 1 kit, PLUS: Proprietary Putnam Propulsion components, (arms, bellcranks, bulkhead(s), front tower, toe blocks, bearings, etc;

-"Stage 3": Stage 2 kit, PLUS: Remainder of components needed for a complete rolling chassis, less transmission

-"Stage 4": Stage 3 kit, PLUS 2.40 Transmission

We will also be offering various upgrades such as Ceramic Bearings, Anodizing, Bodies, etc; as well.

Stay tuned... :revs::checkeredflag:

[DirtFords1]

Sweet!!! :D :thumbsup:

[glgraphix]

TP, how long ago did this start? Would my Procar be this or the older carbon? I do like the stage thing, I would consider another one for the right price and option. :D


PS, like the new avatar :checkeredflag: :trophy: :beer:
Kevin

[Todd Putnam]

TP, how long ago did this start? Would my Procar be this or the older carbon? I do like the stage thing, I would consider another one for the right price and option. :D


PS, like the new avatar :checkeredflag: :trophy: :beer:
Kevin



Kevin,
This is an idea that came about due to the varying demands from customers. Some have ordered complete, turn key cars-others needed a complete roller less transmission, while yet others just needed our aftermarket components and carbon fiber. Full size race cars, go karts, etc; have been sold this way for years-I'm just the first to bring it to R/C.

All of our chassis plates have been cut from our proprietary "Flex Tech" carbon fiber.

[wait a minute]

todd, do u have any idea on pricing for these kits depending on what stage there bought in?

[BMC]

Kevin,
This is an idea that came about due to the varying demands from customers. Some have ordered complete, turn key cars-others needed a complete roller less transmission, while yet others just needed our aftermarket components and carbon fiber. Full size race cars, go karts, etc; have been sold this way for years-I'm just the first to bring it to R/C.

All of our chassis plates have been cut from our proprietary "Flex Tech" carbon fiber.


Todd, when are the kits going to be ready?????

[Todd Putnam]

wait a minute / BMC: We will be finishing up the pricing as soon as we receive our final pricing on some components we're purchasing OEM as well as some we are machining. We're pushing to have kits priced and available in the next 1-2 weeks...

[BMC]

wait a minute / BMC: We will be finishing up the pricing as soon as we receive our final pricing on some components we're purchasing OEM as well as some we are machining. We're pushing to have kits priced and available in the next 1-2 weeks...

That is great Todd, can't wait to see the finished product.

Did you get my PM about a week or so ago???

[noweaklinks]

todd any plans on a nitro car thank mike

[Todd Putnam]

BMC: No PM in my bow that I'm aware of...try to resend it.

Mike: We will be releasing our Nitro EDM/Late Model Car in time for the Open Wheel Champs...probably 2-3 weeks from now... Stay Tuned... :thumbsup:

[BMC]

BMC: No PM in my bow that I'm aware of...try to resend it.

Mike: We will be releasing our Nitro EDM/Late Model Car in time for the Open Wheel Champs...probably 2-3 weeks from now... Stay Tuned... :thumbsup:



Can't wait to see it!!!!

[noweaklinks]

todd is there a waiting list or anything for the nitro car if so let me know so i can get on it thank you mike

[Todd Putnam]

Mike,
We have a about a dozen pre-sold. Call the shop M-F 9-5 EST to discuss the details...
Thanks.
518-452-0422

[Doug Carter]

Any photos of the new kit and the nitro car yet, Todd? I'm really anticipating seeing these new products, as are many others, I'm sure.

:D

[smith20]

i second that motion

[Todd Putnam]

I hear ya guys... No one's more excited than I am!

We have the majority of the parts and pieces on order, and are finishing up with some price quotes from the remaining suppliers-to say it has been a logistical nightmare would be an understatement.

As soon as I can get all the components together to assemble one, I will post pics ASAP.

Wait until you see what we've come up with-we're pretty proud of some of our ideas and improvements... :thumbsup:

The cars will be available prior to and during the US Open Wheel Champs. We have some really big names on board with the Nitro program already, ranging from R&D, design and driver departments, and I can wait for all of our team's efforts to come together and make our first production Nitro debut at the Open Wheel Champs.

Our new cars coupled with world-renowned nitro guru Shih-hang Lee (aka "The General") modified and tuned Nitro engines has the entire team really pumped about our new Nitro program... :revs:

[sunfish112]

I have not seen anything on these. I did see something in one of the mags but What is the price of a complete roller kit??

[Todd Putnam]

Here are some pics of the new Putnam Pro-Nitro Car. The car incorporates our proprietary "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber, as well as a "Torque Arm" for adjusting/tuning the amount of rear flex. Check it out...

[air8]

That's nice!

[latemodel1000]

Looks good Todd, can I get you to send me dealer info on these cars so I may post them on the store site?

This should be a great addition to the new Dirt Oval stuff I am soon to be offering, still working on the page, but soon to be operational, always sold tires, no with kits this should be great.

Darrell Clevenger
dcmotorsports100@hotmail.com

[markny]

looking for kit prices





Looks good Todd, can I get you to send me dealer info on these cars so I may post them on the store site?

This should be a great addition to the new Dirt Oval stuff I am soon to be offering, still working on the page, but soon to be operational, always sold tires, no with kits this should be great.

Darrell Clevenger
dcmotorsports100@hotmail.com

[latemodel1000]

looking for kit prices




ME TOO, I am waiting on Todd to send me an updated price list for the new items and kits...... I will post all on the website on teh DIRT OVAL PAGE as soon as things come available to me also......................

[JW8]

Nice Nitro Car. A nitro Sprinter to match those would be killer....:D

[air8]

I agree. LOL.

[WEG'S]

ME TOO, I am waiting on Todd to send me an updated price list for the new items and kits...... I will post all on the website on teh DIRT OVAL PAGE as soon as things come available to me also......................

WHAT WEB SITE WOULD THAT BE?

MIKE

[air8]

www.putnampropulsion.com (http://www.putnampropulsion.com)

Todd Putnam has the link in his sig up at the top of the first page.

[latemodel1000]

WHAT WEB SITE WOULD THAT BE?

MIKE


Still waiting in Todd to get back to me, but the website I am referring to is my store site......

www.teamdcm.com

[WEG'S]

Thanks Darrel, Thats The Info I Was Looking For. Air8, I Know All About Todd's Web Site, Thanks.

Mike

[Todd Putnam]

-Stage 4 Kit Pricing: Stage 4, Complete Roller, Fully Assembled. (Electric Pro-Car Kit or Pro-Nitro Kit) retail is $700.

As soon as our instructions are completed, kits will come unassembled.

[smith20]

what will the unassembled price be

[air8]

Ooooooh! I like the sound of a pro-nitro kit. LOL.

[markny]

todd do you have a pic or two of a complete roller with electronics and a battery mounted you can post.






-Stage 4 Kit Pricing: Stage 4, Complete Roller, Fully Assembled. (Electric Pro-Car Kit or Pro-Nitro Kit) retail is $700.

As soon as our instructions are completed, kits will come unassembled.

[glgraphix]

TP, you have a PM.
Kevin

[KUSTOM-1]

Reply to Markny

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/eglisario/DSCN0178.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/eglisario/DSCN0179.jpg

[Todd Putnam]

Thanks Ken!

[markny]

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thanks for the pics, is anyone using the right side battery holders?

and what is a good servo? mini or full size?
















quote=Todd Putnam;205291]Thanks Ken![/quote]

[dirtsurfer5]

How much longer?? I'm dying here.....

[Todd Putnam]

[








thanks for the pics, is anyone using the right side battery holders?
Yes, depending on track conditions-

and what is a good servo? mini or full size?
Futaba 9550, (Their new replacement is 9551) or Futaba 9650 is what I suggest.















quote=Todd Putnam;205291]Thanks Ken![/quote]
Hope this helps-

[Todd Putnam]

How much longer?? I'm dying here.....

Your competition paid us to hold your car hostage...;)

We will release it from captivity ASAP...:thumbsup:

[rj14]

-Stage 4 Kit Pricing: Stage 4, Complete Roller, Fully Assembled. (Electric Pro-Car Kit or Pro-Nitro Kit) retail is $700.

As soon as our instructions are completed, kits will come unassembled.


Instructions? What are those? Just do what I do, go to reggie and ask "where the ^%$^ does this go?:ha:

[reghammer]

Instructions? What are those? Just do what I do, go to Reggie and ask "where the ^%$^ does this go?:ha:

Yeah, Reggie's direct hotline for assembly instructions is 555-1212, area code unimportant--feel free to call anytime:checkeredflag:

[markny]

does the s infront of the number mean anything s9650 is this what i want for a servo?








Hope this helps-[/quote]

[reghammer]

Mark, the S9650 is a small, light and fast digital servo, very reliable-I have them in everything from all four EDM's to carpet cars--retail around 60-65 bucks

[wait a minute]

Mark, the S9650 is a small, light and fast digital servo, very reliable-I have them in everything from all four EDM's to carpet cars--retail around 60-65 bucks

boy reg..that sounds cheep for those..where u gettin them?

[reghammer]

boy reg..that sounds cheep for those..where u gettin them?
Stormer, Redneck, Tower, Worl of RC parts......

[justanotherbrick]

Stormer, Redneck, Tower, Worl of RC parts......I did better than that at redneck, you just gotta know how to ask.:beer:

[dirtsurfer5]

grrrr, how much longer?!?!?!?!?!

[markny]

thanks for the servo info, what and where is the hot deals on batteries????
















Mark, the S9650 is a small, light and fast digital servo, very reliable-I have them in everything from all four EDM's to carpet cars--retail around 60-65 bucks

[Doug Carter]

Do 9650s have enough torque for a DO car? Aren't they 1/12th scale servos?

[reghammer]

thanks for the servo info, what and where is the hot deals on batteries????Check with Jerry Flynn @ OHP, or Steve Salvas @ TQ Cells

Do 9650s have enough torque for a DO car? Aren't they 1/12th scale servos?

Silly retro guy, 66oz/in torque,26grams, vs 83oz/in and 43grams on the 9550

[Todd Putnam]

grrrr, how much longer?!?!?!?!?!

Mat,

We sent you an email today- your hot rod is on the way.

-TP

[curtisp]

Hey Mat,

That means that my hot rod is on it's way too!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup: SWEET!!!

[dirtsurfer5]

cool, mailer deamon must have snarfed it. You have my work email. I will call ya tomorrow.

[dirtsurfer5]

Got mine yesterday. Cant wait to put it on track. will post pix when it is finished.

[curtisp]

Got mine yesterday. Cant wait to put it on track. will post pix when it is finished.

ditto

[Cory]

i have a complete GBX if i bought the stage 2 kit would i have everything to complete the car ?? and if so how much is the stage 2 kit ???


thanx, Cory

[reghammer]

Cory--YGPM

Reggie

[markny]

bsr silver or pink and what are the compounds? silver is 20? pink 25? (i dont know)i have some rcforless tires from last year would like to know the comparison? color to number rating. and what outside diameter to turn them two? and while asking questions, is there a perfered tread pattern? front three grooves or four? dept to cut to? um should i try to drive the car myself or hire someone?lol oh is this a pay per click site????????








We are excited to announce that we will be offering both of our cars in various kit forms ("Stages") in the near future. We are offering our kits in various "Stages" to better accommodate our customers, so you will be able to buy exactly what you want, and exactly what you need- in a kit form.

-All of our chassis plates are cut from our Proprietary Putnam "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber-This is our own proprietary weave of carbon fiber sheets that we spent over 18 months testing and developing...We do not cut our chassis plates out of generic, standard woven sheets like others do.
Our proprietary layup of our carbon fiber sheets offer a certain degree of torsional flex while still offering increased structural integrity (less flex) front to rear. This is something we have invested a lot of time and money into numerous, ongoing revisions and testing to achieve the best handling, most consistent car available...to offer our customers yet another advantage over the competition.

The various Stages we will be offering our cars are:

-"Stage 1": Proprietary "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber chassis conversions that we currently offer

-"Stage 2": Stage 1 kit, PLUS: Proprietary Putnam Propulsion components, (arms, bellcranks, bulkhead(s), front tower, toe blocks, bearings, etc;

-"Stage 3": Stage 2 kit, PLUS: Remainder of components needed for a complete rolling chassis, less transmission

-"Stage 4": Stage 3 kit, PLUS 2.40 Transmission

We will also be offering various upgrades such as Ceramic Bearings, Anodizing, Bodies, etc; as well.

Stay tuned... :revs::checkeredflag:

[glgraphix]

bsr silver or pink and what are the compounds? silver is 20? pink 25? (i dont know)i have some rcforless tires from last year would like to know the comparison? color to number rating. and what outside diameter to turn them two? and while asking questions, is there a perfered tread pattern? front three grooves or four? dept to cut to? um should i try to drive the car myself or hire someone?lol oh is this a pay per click site????????You have a PM on the tire differences.
Kevin

[megasaxon]

You have a PM on the tire differences.
Kevin

can you post that info? Others want to know too!

[markny]

silver? and what tire diameter and what pattern?? front 3 or 4 grooves?








You have a PM on the tire differences.
Kevin

[Todd Putnam]

I know that the RC4Less Foam is totally different from CW, Cooper and BSR foam. I can offer you the following, as we only run BSR tires:

BSR's:

-Silver: R1? Foam Family (Different family of foam than pinks/purples) Soft, usually durometers around 25 +/-

-Pink: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 25-30

-Double Pink: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 30-35

-Purple: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 35-40

-Double Purple: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 40-45

-30's: R3 Foam Family (Higher Rubber Content than R4) / Durometers 30 +/-


Cross Reference:

As of December of '07 @ the USOW Champs:

-CW and Coopers "Pinks" were the same durometer reading and foam family as BSR "Double Pinks"

-I believe CW, Coopers, and BSR Silvers were all the same. CRC Terra Gomme are this foam as well.

[Todd Putnam]

silver? and what tire diameter and what pattern?? front 3 or 4 grooves?

-We primarily run BSR Pinks, Silvers or 30's depending on the track and track condition. Very seldom do we run anything harder than a BSR double pink.

-For a starting tire diameter, we run 2.57" - 2.58"

-I start with 5 grooves in both fronts and rears. Also cut cross grooves in rear tires for forward bite.

- All grooves are VERY shallow - maybe 1/16th" max. Just enough to produce an "edge." Too shallow is better than too deep...

-Make all Grooves with a thin Dremel cutoff wheel (#409?)- works well everywhere.

[markny]

hmm might be a good idea making a set up / simple facts people need to know page on your web site??






-We primarily run BSR Pinks, Silvers or 30's depending on the track and track condition. Very seldom do we run anything harder than a BSR double pink.

-For a starting tire diameter, we run 2.57" - 2.58"

-I start with 5 grooves in both fronts and rears. Also cut cross grooves in rear tires for forward bite.

- All grooves are VERY shallow - maybe 1/16th" max. Just enough to produce an "edge." Too shallow is better than too deep...

-Make all Grooves with a thin Dremel cutoff wheel (#409?)- works well everywhere.

[Todd Putnam]

Working on a brand new site...stay tuned...

[needthat22]

when is the new web site going to be up and running?

[mike101]

Working on a brand new site...stay tuned...
Hey Todd,

YGM!!

Thanks Mike

[jimmymack1]

Todd could you tell me the price of an electric stage 2 and stage 3 version of your car. I looked through the posts and didn't see it but i might have missed it. Thanks in advance for your help. Jim

[R Keeney]

Todd:

You've got and email!

Thanks,

R Keeney

[jrcspeedway]

Thats great Todd i will be talking to you about one of those nitro kits soon :D

[markny]

what tools was used for tire grooving . do you sell this same tool?





I know that the RC4Less Foam is totally different from CW, Cooper and BSR foam. I can offer you the following, as we only run BSR tires:

BSR's:

-Silver: R1? Foam Family (Different family of foam than pinks/purples) Soft, usually durometers around 25 +/-

-Pink: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 25-30

-Double Pink: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 30-35

-Purple: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 35-40

-Double Purple: R4 Foam Family / Durometers 40-45

-30's: R3 Foam Family (Higher Rubber Content than R4) / Durometers 30 +/-


Cross Reference:

As of December of '07 @ the USOW Champs:

-CW and Coopers "Pinks" were the same durometer reading and foam family as BSR "Double Pinks"

-I believe CW, Coopers, and BSR Silvers were all the same. CRC Terra Gomme are this foam as well.

[Todd Putnam]

-We primarily run BSR Pinks, Silvers or 30's depending on the track and track condition. Very seldom do we run anything harder than a BSR double pink.

-For a starting tire diameter, we run 2.57" - 2.58"

-I start with 5 grooves in both fronts and rears. Also cut cross grooves in rear tires for forward bite.

- All grooves are VERY shallow - maybe 1/16th" max. Just enough to produce an "edge." Too shallow is better than too deep...

-Make all Grooves with a thin Dremel cutoff wheel (#409?)- works well everywhere.

Markny- Here's your answer...(see above) You can use an X-Acto to make the cylindrical grooves in Silvers, as the grooves "open up" quite a bit after you run them a few times. Just remember to keep the grooves as shallow as possible.

Oh, btw- you should receive your BSR Silver rears today or tomorrow.

[markny]

thanks





Markny- Here's your answer...(see above) You can use an X-Acto to make the cylindrical grooves in Silvers, as the grooves "open up" quite a bit after you run them a few times. Just remember to keep the grooves as shallow as possible.

Oh, btw- you should receive your BSR Silver rears today or tomorrow.

[BEACHNUTTZ]

Todd, shot you a pm...Thanks, Jim

[Todd Putnam]

Todd, shot you a pm...Thanks, Jim
Replied-

[Axeman217]

I'm in for a nitro car

"Fast Eddie"


Trying to get the jump on us Mike? (no weak links) lol j/k

[Todd Putnam]

Fast Eddie:

Give me a call at the shop M-F, 9-5 EST and we'll get you taken car of-

Thanks,
Todd Putnam
Putnam Propulsion
518-452-0422

[radioflyer]

We are excited to announce that we will be offering both of our cars in various kit forms ("Stages") in the near future. We are offering our kits in various "Stages" to better accommodate our customers, so you will be able to buy exactly what you want, and exactly what you need- in a kit form.

-All of our chassis plates are cut from our Proprietary Putnam "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber-This is our own proprietary weave of carbon fiber sheets that we spent over 18 months testing and developing...We do not cut our chassis plates out of generic, standard woven sheets like others do.
Our proprietary layup of our carbon fiber sheets offer a certain degree of torsional flex while still offering increased structural integrity (less flex) front to rear. This is something we have invested a lot of time and money into numerous, ongoing revisions and testing to achieve the best handling, most consistent car available...to offer our customers yet another advantage over the competition.

The various Stages we will be offering our cars are:

-"Stage 1": Proprietary "Flex-Tech" Carbon Fiber chassis conversions that we currently offer

-"Stage 2": Stage 1 kit, PLUS: Proprietary Putnam Propulsion components, (arms, bellcranks, bulkhead(s), front tower, toe blocks, bearings, etc;

-"Stage 3": Stage 2 kit, PLUS: Remainder of components needed for a complete rolling chassis, less transmission

-"Stage 4": Stage 3 kit, PLUS 2.40 Transmission

We will also be offering various upgrades such as Ceramic Bearings, Anodizing, Bodies, etc; as well.

Stay tuned... :revs::checkeredflag:
What width body will we need to run?

[rj14]

What width body will we need to run?


As Todd will tell you that may be a loaded question. If you are planning to run a Putnam Pro-Car or Pro Term in an EDM configuration....Then your choices are only limited by the rules which would be 8" wide. There is no minimum width. You will find that there are advantages to running a body in this config, less than 8" wide for different handling results.

As far as running a latemodel body....you will probably want to look in the 8 7/8" range. Some of these will include- The Rocket by Factory Works, The Tulsa by McAllister (225mm) and I believe the Open Comp Camaro by CW also is at this width. I have seen wider bodies on them as well. If you go wider this will allow more variance as far as location on the chassis.

Todd has usually got a couple of different bodies in stock.

Call him at the shop for more info-

518-452-0422

[glgraphix]

I ran 13.5 LateModel all last year, with the Pro-car. Also, qualified 8th in same class @ '08 USOW with same body. The McAllister Winchester is MY choice. I think it looks the most like a "real LM". It is a "tunnel" style body, that has a seperate top. It gives you an advantage I think on a longer track, also enough side height to work good on rubber tire tracks with longer shocks.
:twocents:
Kevin