US open wheel champs

[dirtsurfer5]

do we know where it is going to yet?

[rj14]

Ranch Pit Stop, CA :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: ;)

[Rob Cutman]

RJ,
If the Ranch track was still there, you could count on it. Much warmer in Pomona in December than anywhere back here. That was my favorite track!

The date for the race will be the second weekend in December, same as always. Look for a venue announcement sometime around July.

Rob

[Team GFRP]

RJ,
If the Ranch track was still there, you could count on it. Much warmer in Pomona in December than anywhere back here. That was my favorite track!

The date for the race will be the second weekend in December, same as always. Look for a venue announcement sometime around July.

Rob

Could we get the body rules for the EDM class? So in the near future we can practice with the bodies we will be allowed to run??

[dirtsurfer5]

thanks rob, making plans for the trip from IA.

[smith20]

so its not going to be at coopers this year

[MWMOTORSPORTS21]

I'm thinkin the venue will change this year. Where it goes is anyone's guess but I got that feeling it's time for change. Plus with the health issues Norris has of late they may not be up to the challenge again this year. Just my thoughts.

[Rob Cutman]

Let me clarify that last post. I am not saying if the race will or will not be at cooper's this year. As is the case every year we constantly look for alternative facilities to host this event. The original idea with this race was to have it at a different track each year. Circumstances and limited options have kept the race at the same places in recent years but that was never the original intention. We certainly hope Norris's health improves to the point that it is not even a factor in the decision about the race. As in years past we will look at all options we may have and announce the location for the race sometime in mid to late summer.

Thanks,
Rob Cutman

[dirtsurfer5]

It has been quoted that "smoke" may build a a place on the grounds of Eldora. I know there are many DO folks in the MW that feel VA is a bit far to travel. Me being from IA, and along with a huge following in IL, WI, IN, MN and SD, you would still get the Eastern support, with a huge crowd from the MW, is there a possibility of a place at Eldora? I can say, I would make that trip just about yearly, and I know others in the area it would be more feasable to travel to OH. OH would also allow the massive eastern following come, and not completely rule them out as it might with a western facility. Where ever it is this year, I believe I will be there, but I would like to say I want to come more often, and a MW location would ensure that.

[DWarren78]

Any news yet on the venue?

[dirtsurfer5]

hey, it is July?

[Fargo Flash]

Mat - no patience anymore? LOL

Like I said before....put the dates on the calendar and save the vacation. Coming from our part of the country....it will be a long drive regardless of where the race is at....

And regardless of where the race is held....it will be the biggest and best race of the year for those of us who like to go in circles (and breathe in nitro fumes!)

Colin

[smitty]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the Open Wheel race was at a different track, with different tires............How about the new CW HB rubber tires as a spec tire????

chad

[WEG'S]

Thanks Chad, I Just Threw Up My Lunch. If You Need Help With Foams, All You Have To Do Is Ask. Lmao

Mike

[kipp]

Thanks Chad, I Just Threw Up My Lunch. If You Need Help With Foams, All You Have To Do Is Ask. Lmao

Mike
LMAO !!

[Rcer19]

just imagine how fast a Dynotech car would be with foams, but i guess we will never know, lol
Dirtsurfer, it has been "quoted" that Smoke was doing many things over the years, but i think he just likes the idea of just having to show up somewhere and race for a few days then leave, Not saying that something will never happen, but right now he has enough on his already overcrowded plate

[Fargo Flash]

I was thinking it would be cool if Smoke built a track in the same complex as his "modest" sprint car shop near Indy. Here's a link to a neat article about it that was in the paper....

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2007-06-14-Tony-Stewart-and-dad_N.htm

[Doug Carter]

Mmmmm... Eldora. :thumbsup:

[Dlan44]

Moving a big event around the country is a great concept, but you have a limited number of choices for venues. It has to be indoors (only 5 in the country over 200') or in a location with good weather in December, plus it has to e able to pit over 400 racers.........that is a killer at many tracks alone. Not to mention somepace where the Griners will leave Tony alone so he can race and be one of the guys.

i don't envy Rob's job of finding a venue to host 400 racers indoors. Not to mention space to park all the cars, trailers, and motor homes. I can't think of any place other than Coopers that has ALL the requirements............unless you rent a arena..............and that gets expensive. Hmmmmmm........Vegas???? Or maybe a casino somewhere with a rodeo arena?

Rob...................YoU CaN Do It.

Any place will be fine with me.............I just enjoy the racing.

[boatanchor48]

Motor homes were a result of coopers being 20+ miles from the nearest hotel. I don’t remember their being more than 3 when the race was at kranzels. And there is a sweet spot for the race, I don’t think the race could go much further south than Charlotte, NC without a drop-off in racers and the same going west

[cobra22431]

Keep it at coopers!! most cant afford a trip to west coast and we been loyal for so many years! Im sure help can be found so Norris can relax and watch.

[wfw94]

Just wait, it's coming to a town near you soon.

[Breckenridge]

Hmmmmmm........Vegas???? Or maybe a casino somewhere with a rodeo arena?


A Snowbirds style temporary track in LV? Now THAT would be interesting. Just pitch a couple big tents in the infield of the dirt track, one for the track, one for the pits. Just add water. I wonder how many folks would get caught up in the extra-curricular entertainment and miss their heat.

[smitty2802]

the snowbirds this year is in disney land so lets see how many of those ppl miss there races..lol.. i can't wait for it...-DC-

[RCRACR20]

I would love to see the event held at Bumps and Jumps, too bad there isnt enough room to fit 300 racers inside.

[TQT2]

Any state that has a State Fair should have adequate facilities like here in NY. I don't imagine that would cost a ton of money either.

[kipp]

the problem with a temporary track in stadiums or arenas would be the costs of trucking in the clay and the labor of building the track. its not like there will be 20,000 fans in the seats like a motocross event to help foot the bill. i too think it would be cool to have that race moved around but until somebody spends a million dollars for a 200'x100' facility we are limited to coopers because of the high number of entries. i dont know of any existing track that could support 400+ entries.

[justanotherbrick]

the problem with a temporary track in stadiums or arenas would be the costs of trucking in the clay and the labor of building the track. its not like there will be 20,000 fans in the seats like a motocross event to help foot the bill. i too think it would be cool to have that race moved around but until somebody spends a million dollars for a 200'x100' facility we are limited to coopers because of the high number of entries. i dont know of any existing track that could support 400+ entries.


I don't know Kipp, RC Pro series did just that type of thing for their off road nats--I think it
could be done

Reggie

[jeff@vinyltrix]

Any state that has a State Fair should have adequate facilities like here in NY. I don't imagine that would cost a ton of money either.

i dont imagine haveing anything profitable at the fair grounds considering its sit most of the year with alot of events passing syracuse by.

[Dlan44]

Indy RC World in Garland Texas is the largest indoor Nitro Oval I have seen in the country. But pitting 400 entries..........that would be a streach.

i still like Vegas or an arena at the Indian Casinos. At least you have a chance of paying for the trip at the tables. Besides the food and accomodations are ALWAYS good........

Hmmmmmm........Tony is a good poker player. Juat ask Mike Fedorcak !

Mebbe he could win enough to pay for the move.....


All is in jest. I really enjoyed Coopers. That kind of show will be good no matter where it is held. You may lose some familiar faces...........and gain others.

[dirtsurfer5]

Ok Rob, July at the mid-way point, where is it going to be?

[tmr22]

Listen tomorrow on www.racetalklive.com (http://www.racetalklive.com) and you just might get an answer that you guys are looking for. Rob will be on there with Doc Love. I don't care where it goes as long as it doesn't go too far north and take the risk of getting snowed in. I am just guessing but if it does go north the entry count might go down because I know alot of people from down south won't go. If it stayed somewhere in the middle it would still draw the south and north as well as the west. It would be almost impossible for someone to rent an arena and make a track in less than a week. I know that the RC Pro Series did it for an Off-Road race but it doesn't matter with them because the track can be rough and it would be like home for them. An oval would have to be very smooth and there isn't a person around that could build a track in the little amount of time that they would have to do it and keep it in raceable shape for the week with the amount of people that they get for this race. Custom Works don't build racetracks, they build racecars. This is just my opinon.

Tim McNutt

[nightowl75]

Snow is a good thing.:):)

[Fargo Flash]

Per Rob's interview on Racetalklive....no news yet. Hoping to finalize things in the next few weeks and make an announcement in August.

[jeff@vinyltrix]

Snow is a good thing.:):)

snows a whole lot better than say a tornado, hurricane or an earth quake!!

snow melts and goes away!

[glgraphix]

At this point, dont really care where its going to be. I just want to know what the EDM body rules are going to be, so we can be practicing with them before the race.
Kevin

[BEACHNUTTZ]

[ An oval would have to be very smooth and there isn't a person around that could build a track in the little amount of time that they would have to do it and keep it in raceable shape for the week with the amount of people that they get for this race. Custom Works don't build racetracks, they build racecars. This is just my opinon.

Tim McNutt[/quote]


Tim, I am NOT FLAMIN' ya, BUT Rob did build a track, it was home to an Open Wheel Champs race a few years back. And let me tell ya, it was an awesome track! We didnt build it overnight however, I dont remember how long it took, but none the less, it was superb!!

Jim

[tmr22]

JIm, I am not taking it as a flamin'. I would like the race to travel to various places like it was intended to be. I didn't know that they built a track a few years ago. I have just been doing the dirt thing for about 4 years now.

Kevin, If you use the rules that were done for last years bodies then you can practice all you want because that is more than likely going to be the rules for this coming year.

Tim McNutt

[Jeff Harper]

HOW ABOUT TULSA OKLAHOMA?


I say host it at the Tulsa State fairgrounds near the Tulsa Shootout/ChiliBowl Nationals time frame. There is plenty of room in one of the buildings around the fairgrounds and Tony is allready there for the ChiliBowl anyway. Tulsa is centrally located as well and there is a ton of sprintcar nuts on hand during the ChiliBowl for exposure. Dirt is no problem, there is tons of it brought in for the ChiliBowl and a scoring system and plenty of volunteers would not be a problem either! I will be the first volunteer ! LOL!

[FULLT1LT]

any word yet if someone is going to promote an r/c race during the chili bowl this year? i know they tried last year but run out of time?

[glgraphix]

JIm, I am not taking it as a flamin'. I would like the race to travel to various places like it was intended to be. I didn't know that they built a track a few years ago. I have just been doing the dirt thing for about 4 years now.

Kevin, If you use the rules that were done for last years bodies then you can practice all you want because that is more than likely going to be the rules for this coming year.

Tim McNuttThanks, Tim. I do understand that and thats what I have been doing. But, you know how they like to change things up at the last minute. Just to keep us thinking, I think??? LOL. I do think your right though. Just use what we know.
Kevin

[Allan Webster]

I don't think it was a matter of running out of time. I think it was more a matter of, yeah you can do it. Then at the last minute being told, no, you can't do it because it will take away from 'other' activities.

I rebuilt my nitro sprint to run it. Then it fell through. As it was I was too busy with the real race to even deal with racing r/c stuff during the week. I know several people were bummed about it not happening.

[Pop N Fresh]

I have a question, whats wrong with Coopers? you have a race that you have to cut off entrys at 400 and something,thats the biggest and the best race every year,why would you want to change it? Why take something away from someone like the Coopers,who have done more for R/C racing over the last 20 or so years than anyone else involved in the sport. I cant understand it. I'm not saying anything else cause it may not be nice.I'm sorry if I offended anyone,I like the race where it is and thats my vote............as if it matters.

[rj14]

I have a question, whats wrong with Coopers? you have a race that you have to cut off entrys at 400 and something,thats the biggest and the best race every year,why would you want to change it? Why take something away from someone like the Coopers,who have done more for R/C racing over the last 20 or so years than anyone else involved in the sport. I cant understand it. I'm not saying anything else cause it may not be nice.I'm sorry if I offended anyone,I like the race where it is and thats my vote............as if it matters.


The race was never intended to stay at one place. The intent was to have it at a different track each year. But the size of the race has dictated the facility against the original intent of the race. And that is not meant to be disrespectful to Norris and Pat. Just fact. There are some people that would like to see the race move around. I live were it gets cold and it snows by choice, but on the other hand I see nothing wrong if someone were to come up with a facility in Florida, where I am originally from, and put a bid on the race. I doubt you would hear too many complaints from the faithful about going to Florida the second week of December.:D

[va.racer]

hard to beat Coopers as far as I'm concerned.
If it ain't broke??? why change it LOL

[Matt10]

Harper the only problem with the chili bowl is what happens with an ice storm like last year. The racing was great but it was cold as hell. LOL

[almxdup]

Not the only problem. I'm there to watch one of the greatest races around and wouldn't race r/c unless it didn't conflict with the real race.

[cobra22431]

Hi Rob
Is there going to be addition of any brushless classes??? Im getting hooked on running them at local dirt and pancar tracks!




RJ,
If the Ranch track was still there, you could count on it. Much warmer in Pomona in December than anywhere back here. That was my favorite track!

The date for the race will be the second weekend in December, same as always. Look for a venue announcement sometime around July.

Rob

[outlaw4life]

It would be nice to have a brushless 2wd latmodel class this year at the big race. Since they realy don't run latemodels, it would not take from the other classes. But it would be realy awsome to allow the brushless to run li-po's, but limit them to 7.4v. Just my opinion:D

[boatanchor48]

It would be nice to have a brushless 2wd latmodel class this year at the big race. Since they realy don't run latemodels, it would not take from the other classes. But it would be realy awsome to allow the brushless to run li-po's, but limit them to 7.4v. Just my opinion:D

i think it is time for brushless at the custom works race

the orion 3200 lipo would be a good pack to run... it fits on a slotted chassis or the c/w battery tray without any modifications because the bottom of the battery is shaped like a standard 6 cell pack

[dirtsurfer5]

ok, 4 months to get ready....and the venue goes to????????

[93TA]

i heard it was moved to hawaii

[rj14]

i heard it was moved to hawaii

SWEET!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[kipp]

i heard it was moved to hawaii
yes, and tony is going to use his brickyard winnings to pay all our air fair and hotel bills.

[rj14]

yes, and tony is going to use his brickyard winnings to pay all our air fair and hotel bills.

I guess then he will save a few bucks on Fred and solly's trip.

Seeing as they will be taking the sail boat.:beer:

[93TA]

yes, and tony is going to use his brickyard winnings to pay all our air fair and hotel bills.

not everyone's, just his fans that have to "put up w/ all the bullshizit", everyone else is on their own dime. lol :)

[kipp]

not everyone's, just his fans that have to "put up w/ all the bullshizit", everyone else is on their own dime. lol :)
a lot of people dont understand what he meant by that. i know exactly what he meant because i hear it all the time. why do you like that arrogant s.o.b.? tony is a spoiled brat! tony is rude! i hear it all. i just tell them if you or i were in his shoes do you really think we would be any different. getting followed by camaras and microphones shoved in your face in the most inoppurtune moments. the media creates monsters!! some of his comments can make me cringe sometimes but i like him because he is a true hardcore racer that gives back to the sport in a big way. i also like the fact that he takes the time to race with us regular joes when ever he gets a chance. after all he is a regular joe just like us, he is just fortunate enough to have the best job in the world.

[CeO21]

Kipp,

Couldn't have said it any better myself, my friend! Tony is a really unique guy to put up with all that he does plus he's one of "US"... an RC racer by choice. What a priviledge it is for us to have him as one of "US"! No where but in AMERICA man!

Cecil

[jeff@vinyltrix]

a lot of people dont understand what he meant by that. i know exactly what he meant because i hear it all the time. why do you like that arrogant s.o.b.? tony is a spoiled brat! tony is rude! i hear it all. i just tell them if you or i were in his shoes do you really think we would be any different. getting followed by camaras and microphones shoved in your face in the most inoppurtune moments. the media creates monsters!! some of his comments can make me cringe sometimes but i like him because he is a true hardcore racer that gives back to the sport in a big way. i also like the fact that he takes the time to race with us regular joes when ever he gets a chance. after all he is a regular joe just like us, he is just fortunate enough to have the best job in the world.

the only thing i like about stewart he pretty much tells it like it is to nascar goodyear ect ect..
hes not afraid to speak his mind..

[FULLT1LT]

Stewart rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I watched him ride a wheelie in a midget for 50 laps when he won the chili bowl the first time.He is a true hardcore racer!!!!!! I was not a tony stewart fan until I saw this display of driving ability. Heck,anyone would get mad if they have a camera shoved in their face and a mike up their rear when they are already mad.I would.

[inman59]

Sooo.. anyone know where the race is really gonna be??

93ta- I've been trying to call you!

[jeff@vinyltrix]

Sooo.. anyone know where the race is really gonna be??

93ta- I've been trying to call you!


SOLLY'S R/C DREAM WORLD.

CATO NY

[the Legend]

SOLLY'S R/C DREAM WORLD.

CATO NY

Rooms will cost 1 case of beer. Motorhome parking...1 case of beer.

[tmr22]

If I was everyone I would go ahead and plan your vacation for the normal time that it is every year and more than likely expect it at Cooper's. Until someone can magically come up with a place that is enclosed and is centrally located for everyone you can probably bet that it will be there. I am not speaking for Custom Works but they are very busy right now getting kits completed and delivered to their customers and I would bet that they are not worrying too much on a venue to have this annual event.

Tim McNutt

[wfw94]

There's only one thing that keeps me from being a true Stewart fan, he doesn't drive a FORD, if he did that would be the _ _ _ _!!!!!!!!!!!!! Besides that Tony is a true racer.:tire:

[terry14]

everyone is overlooking the obviouse....he is a marketing machine. he knows how to sell himself!!!! how many more t shirts do you think he has sold since he made his comment. don't get me wrong he is a great driver , and has done more for dirt racing more than anyone else lately.

[cr1dale3]

have the race at bumps & jumps.they had a tent for the freeze,it was warmer in there than the building . that way the n.y. guys dont have to travel that far and it will get the n.c. guys up here.

[Rcer19]

a fairly simple solution to moving this race around the country is, "Change the date",
have the race during the summer months sometime, there are plenty of outdoor venues that could host it outside, Now i know the 1st thing your going to say is "WEATHER" well if they can put a tent up to hold, Barrett Jackson, they can do 1 for this race, i am sure an extra 5.00 in the entry fees would not upset anyone, especially if the race was in there area, do the math, 5.00 X 400 entries, that is a good amount towards the cost of the tent,
I know we have it in December to accomadate Tony , i do appreciate the fact that he puts up the dough and prizes, But we are at the mercy of the date for 1 person verses 400+ people, We all feel the pinch with just getting over Thanksgiving and Christmas right there too, I know it has always been in nov or dec, but me, i would rather race outside, anyday!!!!
Now keep your head out of your arse and think about it with an open mind,

[latemodel13]

Yea if they have it at bumps and jumps they would sell more parts! That place is fast.

[Jason Smith]

Phoenix would be perfect for outdoors in December.

[the Legend]

I agree with Nick. I have never made it to this race because I can never get the days off from work It's one of the busiest times of the year.

[MWMOTORSPORTS21]

I have to agree with Nick. Although I love the Cooper's venue the time of year sux. If it couldn't be scheduled for a summer date I would have to go with Bumps and Jumps as an alternative venue. Unfortunately the entry list would be a bit smaller but the place is super fast and very competitive. I am not only suggesting this because it's practically in my backyard but anyone who has been there for an event agrees it is possibly the nicest race/hobby center on the east coast right now for an indoor track with plenty of hotels and restuarants within 5 minutes or so drive. At least as far as any I have been to. Chris has the capabilities of holding such an event. I am hoping to attend this year's race and the choice of venue will really help me decide if I go or not. I love Cooper's facility but I HATE the drive back and forth to the hotel. Most of the time til we get out of there and get to our rooms you're turning back around to go right back with an hour or two of sleep if your lucky. I used to be able to do that no problem but the more years I have under my belt, the harder it gets. If it wasn't so cold I'd sleep in my truck. Haha.

[Dlan44]

I really like Phoenix, but 300-400 entries........just not enough space.

A tent would work, but one large enough to cover a track and pits would cost over $6,000 for a weekend (thats an additional $15 per entry)......and they would need it for a week.

The closest track to Coopers (size/surface/indoors) is Ocala (NewRed).

B&J is a good option........but 400 entries? That may be a streach. Think pits and parking.
The same would be true for Dallas. You would have to get REAL creative like renting tents, tables etc.

I agree with Tim.....plan on Coopers.

[brockh]

Ok i don't remember anyone mentioning this but i think its time..... WTF was up with coopers charging to park RACERS last year?!????!! we drive from all over hell's creation, pay 35 bucks a class to enter and they charge us to park????? I agree lets move the race! as much as i like coopers if he needs to triple dip, i'm all for finding somewhere else to go. Had my trailer not been so parked in, I would have headed north the first time the guy told me they were charging to park.
FTPIB_IOH

[Fargo Flash]

In July Rob even said he had no reason to believe it wasn't going to be at Coopers....but things aren't final until they are final.

However....the dates are absolutely set. Heck....they were confirmed already in February when I was at the Snowbirds. Race will be December 5th-9th....regardless of the location.

Plan your vacations...and more than likely we'll all be together in Viriginia in December.

[DWarren78]

As far as the parking fees, i'm not really sure if it was Coopers idea or custom works idea, but I know the previous 2 years it was horrible trying to find a spot and getting blocked in once you were there, due to many factors, but it made it a nightmare, last year was 100 times better due to the increased motorhome parking and actually having people police the parking. I think I paid the dollar or ever how much it was the first day and didn't have to pay anymore, it was a minor nuisance, but any kind of event you go to, real race, ball game, concert you usually have to pay alot more, and this is a very big event.

[brockh]

As far as the parking fees, i'm not really sure if it was Coopers idea or custom works idea, but I know the previous 2 years it was horrible trying to find a spot and getting blocked in once you were there, due to many factors, but it made it a nightmare, last year was 100 times better due to the increased motorhome parking and actually having people police the parking. I think I paid the dollar or ever how much it was the first day and didn't have to pay anymore, it was a minor nuisance, but any kind of event you go to, real race, ball game, concert you usually have to pay alot more, and this is a very big event.
It was horrible because there was no orginization. Granted it was better this year ONLY because someone used their head and determined where larger vehicles should park. If they want to charge, fine, charge those who are not racing. Thats too hard you may say...no...pass out a parking permit with a paid entry...problem solved. You say you pay more if you go to a real race, ball game, or concert....thats just not the same thing, to put it in your context the venue would charge the racers to park their haulers the ballpark would charge the players to enter the stadium and the arena would charge the band to use the stage....WE MAKE THE EVENT we already paid...why should we pay again....not that its a significant amount...its a nucense.

[jeff@vinyltrix]

You say you pay more if you go to a real race, ball game, or concert....thats just not the same thing, to put it in your context the venue would charge the racers to park their haulers the ballpark would charge the players to enter the stadium and the arena would charge the band to use the stage....WE MAKE THE EVENT we already paid...why should we pay again....not that its a significant amount...its a nucense.

the racers pay to enter a race not to get into the track. ball players bands ect are paid to play they do not pay to park their vehicles when they get there. i have to agree i dont feel if you pay
35$ entry fee you should have to pay to park as well.. JMO.

[Fargo Flash]

I was suprised by the parking fee....but for the one or two dollars it cost I didn't think it was a big deal. I spent $20 for parking at a Giants game in May.....talk about highway robbery!

[smith20]

the one dollar you paid to park went to the local ems/fire department no one at the track made nothing off the parking.

[Rob Cutman]

No announcement yet guys. As soon as a venue has been determined we will be sure to let everyone know.

As far as a date change you have to realize that there are several things to consider if that were to happen. Obviously Tony could not make it, not a big deal to some but it is a big deal to him. The whole concept of thousands of dollars in prize money and thousands of dollars in very nice trophies was his idea from the get go and it comes out of his own pocket, not this business or the race money. This is a race that drew about 200 entries or so before his involvement. Now you can argue that him being there is not important, prize money is not important, trophies are not important, the date is to close to christmas etc. etc. Bottom line is this race draws 400+ racers for some reason or another and that is much more than any other race out there.

It would be very difficult to have a race of this magnitude at an outdoor venue and expect the same type of turnout. Also there are plenty of other large events and racing series' that go on throughout the summer months. Moving this race to the middle of the year would certainly affect those races. I can assure you that december is not my first choice either, that is our busiest time of the year by far. I can also assure that the US Open Wheel Championships at an outdoor venue in Mid Summer with average trohies and no prize money would be just another race, and a lot of you could find a reason not to make it!

Regarding the paying to park at Cooper's last year, that was a decision that was made by the track to help cover the cost of having someone help direct the parking and keep the spots closest to the building open for racers only. We understand that a lot of racers were not happy about that and I can assure you that will not be an issue in the future.

Thanks,
Rob

[BEACHNUTTZ]

WOW, you must be kidding! A whole dollar to park?? If a dollar is a problem, whoever complains about paying a dollar to the local ems/fire for parking, DID NOT choose the right hobby!

[smith20]

norris had the fire dept to park everyone to let them make a few dollars.never know you might need them when a car goes haywire

[brockh]

norris had the fire dept to park everyone to let them make a few dollars.never know you might need them when a car goes haywire
if in fact this was the case the people should have 1 let us know what it was going towards 2 make it a donation basis NOT manditory to pay. Would i have had a problem giving a dollar to the fire dept, no. Do i have a problem with someone telling me i have to pay money to get back to my trailer that was already parked there for 3 days, that was housing 9 entered vehicles at 35/entry...yes i have a problem with that....especially since we were not told we were going to have to pay.

[DWarren78]

Didn't mean to ruffle feathers, just saying that in context of all the money we already spend on batteries, cars, tires, brushes, motors, etc. etc., without even hesitating, I really took the 1 dollar parking fee for granted. It's a great race to go to, and for what custom works and the Coopers put into it to make it a great race, I didnt' mind paying a dollar extra to participate. You can go to a nascar race, or major league sport and pay insane amounts of money to park, when the stadium or tracks and race teams and players are making millions of dollars off of ticket sales and endorsements already, that doesn't seem fair to me, versus a relatively small hobby and track or tracks that are putting alot into making an event successfull. It should have been advertised before hand, but it wasn't something I would boycott an event for either.

[4wd#9Nick]

The race will most likely be at Coopers and I am cool with that. It works for what we do without too much effort.

Thinking outside of the box the other day I came up with another idea. Across the country there are indoor dirt bike tracks that could work. Some use clay, there is a 28000 square foot place in Indiana, heated. Rent it for a week and a bulldozer? We would only need a section of the building. themotorplex.com . I read Tony had visited it one time in the past to watch indoor dirt biking. :tire:

Nick

[Dlan44]

Renting a arena sounds good tilll you start looking at the costs. recently Carlton posted the financials from our Off Road finals last November in Illinois. I believe there were 365 entries, plus booths for manufacturers. good concept on paper.......bad financially. here is what he posted on www.rcprosites.com (http://www.rcprosites.com)

Now here is what the finals cost last year!
$41,000 - arena rental and arena staff
$ 8700 - Dirt rental
$1500 - Travel for officials
$1000 - Hotel for officials
$600 - Van rental
$4000 - Banquet
$1500 - Posters
$1000 - Awards, watches
$3000 - Prize money
$750
$61,550- total expenses except for shipping on banners, awards etc.
Total money that came in for the finals
$25,760 - entries
$2400 - booth rentals/ sponsorship money
$28,160 - total
That leaves a grand total of a loss of $32, 640

If any of you guys have a better and more cost effective way of doing this, we are all ears too. I am not trying to hijack Rob's thread, i am just trying to give you guys an idea of what a Big Event costs..........not even mentioning the time and manpower involved. These things don't just come together. Cut Rob some slack. he has a busines to run in addition to organizing the Open Wheel. He does a fine job of both and I am looking forward to watching the show again this year, and possibly running for the first time.

BTW......$1 for parking is a moot point. I have had to pay $10 just for a 3' section of pit table to work on in the past. Not a bad deal if the promoter had to rent the tables to accomodate the number of entries.

[4wd#9Nick]

My first sentence points out that I understand and have been told the reason for Coopers. It makes sense! Less expense and hassel. Rob and Arnie have enough stress.

I believe a county fair type building would cost $41K to rent. I do know and have seen the poor attendance in the indoor dirt bike facilities at $25 a day for practice with a handful of riders attending. I dont think a privately owned building would be $41K to rent. Plus we know that it is zoned for what we do (they have dirt bikes running and jumping in there every day all year long). Depending on the track surface we may not have the dirt expense, at the very least the banking is there. These buildings are out in the country similar to Coopers, tons of parking and we are not bothering neighbors.

Good thing that Tony and CW covers most of the rest of the stuff mentioned on that list. Brings tour buses for the official and team. No banquet. Pays for trophies and the unheard of pay out. All currently by choice.

Pit tables, enough electric, and a few volunteers would always killl a good cheap plan anyways.

Long live Coopers
Nick

[JASONHastings]

Any news for this years Open Wheel Rules etc?

[CeO21]

To all of the winers and complainers!

Most of us DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR CRAP ABOUT THE CUSTOM WORKS DIRT OVAL U.S. OPEN WHEEL CHAMPIONSHIPS race.

Now with that said .... You live in a FREE country, it's your choice to participate. If you don't like what, where, when and how things happen at this event ..... DON'T SIGN UP!!! EVER AGAIN! I'm sure there will be plenty of racers who will fill in for you not participating.

Cecil

[sprinter117]

To all of the winers and complainers!

Most of us DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR CRAP ABOUT THE CUSTOM WORKS DIRT OVAL U.S. OPEN WHEEL CHAMPIONSHIPS race.

Now with that said .... You live in a FREE country, it's your choice to participate. If you don't like what, where, when and how things happen at this event ..... DON'T SIGN UP!!! EVER AGAIN! I'm sure there will be plenty of racers who will fill in for you not participating.

Cecil



That is a great attitude to have.......................................

[CeO21]

Thanks Bill. You're so graceous.

[JASONHastings]

Can't wait for The Open Wheel first try with a Nitro Late Model should be loads of fun.

[sprinter117]

Thanks Bill. You're so graceous.


I doubt very much the Custom works crew or the Host track share your opinion ;)

[wfw94]

That is a great attitude to have.......................................
Thanks Cecil, your'e right on the money. There will always be plenty of people to make this a great race.

[the Legend]

Thanks Cecil, your'e right on the money. There will always be plenty of people to make this a great race.

And so many that cannot make it,that would make it greater.

[Mason]

love on the rocks.. aint no surprise.

calm down guys

[CeO21]

I doubt very much the Custom works crew or the Host track share your opinion ;)

Bill,

I or you must be missing something here. My post was saying to all of the wieners and complainers about what's wrong with the Open Wheel race and Coopers too, to just don't sign up for the most prestigious Dirt Oval race in the Land.

That's all. Nothing towards Custom Works or Cooper's... at All. I haven't attended them all, but I can proudly say .... Raced at the 1st. one and got the Tee shirt to prove it!

Thanks Don for understanding what I said in my first post.

Cecil

[cobra22431]

Please leave the race at coopers! Please add brushless classes! I had a great time last year, it was not that cold and it was only 1 of the days. The date is fine, we want TONY! I think All involved partys did a great job last year, keep up the good work!!!!!

[wfw94]

Please leave the race at coopers! Please add brushless classes! I had a great time last year, it was not that cold and it was only 1 of the days. The date is fine, we want TONY! I think All involved partys did a great job last year, keep up the good work!!!!!
What race were you at, because a the open wheel champs it was so cold the water was freezing in the tanks on motorhomes. If I remember right the wind chill was like 12 degrees.

[cobra22431]

I was at the same race as you, 2006 us open wheel. Im from up north, thats not cold LOL



What race were you at, because a the open wheel champs it was so cold the water was freezing in the tanks on motorhomes. If I remember right the wind chill was like 12 degrees.

[jeff@vinyltrix]

What race were you at, because a the open wheel champs it was so cold the water was freezing in the tanks on motorhomes. If I remember right the wind chill was like 12 degrees.


only 12 deg thats a heat wave for a cny winter.

[Doug Gaut]

HOW ABOUT TULSA OKLAHOMA?


I say host it at the Tulsa State fairgrounds near the Tulsa Shootout/ChiliBowl Nationals time frame. There is plenty of room in one of the buildings around the fairgrounds and Tony is allready there for the ChiliBowl anyway. Tulsa is centrally located as well and there is a ton of sprintcar nuts on hand during the ChiliBowl for exposure. Dirt is no problem, there is tons of it brought in for the ChiliBowl and a scoring system and plenty of volunteers would not be a problem either! I will be the first volunteer ! LOL!


I think that would be a great idea. As long as its scheduled around the midget races so everybody could attend both, can you imagine the marketing tool a race at the Chili Bowl would be let alone if Tony was able to race it AND the midget? You guys out east have your Open Wheel Champs that is on foams so dont move that event BUT let us midwest guys have our race with Tony on rubber tires while he is at the Chili Bowl. ;) I was planning on attending last year before the last minute details were not ironed out and the event was cancelled.

That would be DOUBLE the exposure for Custom Works and Tony alike. :D

[brockh]

I think that would be a great idea. As long as its scheduled around the midget races so everybody could attend both, can you imagine the marketing tool a race at the Chili Bowl would be let alone if Tony was able to race it AND the midget? You guys out east have your Open Wheel Champs that is on foams so dont move that event BUT let us midwest guys have our race with Tony on rubber tires while he is at the Chili Bowl. ;) I was planning on attending last year before the last minute details were not ironed out and the event was cancelled.

That would be DOUBLE the exposure for Custom Works and Tony alike. :D
although this seem like it would be awesome for both parties, you have to take into consideration what does a weekend of racing thrown by customworks involve for rob. Rob's ability to find any enjoyment out of these races is beyond me. He has to show up about a week prior to set everything up for his drivers and everyone else attending. He has to play referee between people bickering that whole week. He has to try to get along with everyone no matter their views or opinions for business sake. After the event when everyone bolts, he is left to clean up all the crap. Does this sound like fun to you? I appreciate what rob does for us and would rather see one race a year as opposed to two, just to help ensure our having a big race every year. If he gets burned out and doesn't want to do it, i doubt it will get done and the big race as we know it will be no longer.

[Jeff Harper]

If there was only to be one Big CW race per year then I would think it would be a good thing to spread it around a little (like I guess it was intended in the first place) instead of having it the same place every year (not knocking coopers). That would spread the exposure around a little more I would think.

[wfw94]

I was at the same race as you, 2006 us open wheel. Im from up north, thats not cold LOL
That's funny, I was freezing my, well you know what I was freezing off, LOL!!!!!!!! By the way it's a great race no matter where they have it and we will either be able to attend or not.

[BEACHNUTTZ]

although this seem like it would be awesome for both parties, you have to take into consideration what does a weekend of racing thrown by customworks involve for rob. Rob's ability to find any enjoyment out of these races is beyond me. He has to show up about a week prior to set everything up for his drivers and everyone else attending. He has to play referee between people bickering that whole week. He has to try to get along with everyone no matter their views or opinions for business sake. After the event when everyone bolts, he is left to clean up all the crap. Does this sound like fun to you? I appreciate what rob does for us and would rather see one race a year as opposed to two, just to help ensure our having a big race every year. If he gets burned out and doesn't want to do it, i doubt it will get done and the big race as we know it will be no longer.

Well...........lets see if we can sum this up.............Rob would have to at least work for hummmmmmmmmmm maybe two weeks out of the year!!!!

LOL, just kidding buddy. He does a great job, and I know for a fact I would not want his job for a second...well, maybe a second, just not two weeks out of the year!

Jim

[dirtsurfer5]

ok, the longer this goes, does this mean it will be somewhere else?? was scheduled to give where by now......

[tmr22]

Let me clarify that last post. I am not saying if the race will or will not be at cooper's this year. As is the case every year we constantly look for alternative facilities to host this event. The original idea with this race was to have it at a different track each year. Circumstances and limited options have kept the race at the same places in recent years but that was never the original intention. We certainly hope Norris's health improves to the point that it is not even a factor in the decision about the race. As in years past we will look at all options we may have and announce the location for the race sometime in mid to late summer.

Thanks,
Rob Cutman

Dirtsurfer, I know that you are very anxious to find out where the race is going to be. But the date is set so you can go ahead and plan your vacation time from work for then. As far as the place he posted earlier that he would announce a location in mid to late summer. Summer doesn't end until September 23rd on the calendar. And that looks like a little more than a month away to me. I am not saying this sarcasticly but I talked with him this past weekend and he has been working on it. He isn't just sitting around. Everyone will be notified as soon as he knows where it will be.

Tim McNutt

[dirtsurfer5]

Oh trust me I know the boys at CW are not sitting around. As much as I order, they are sick of hearing from my supplier. My vacation is set, just if there is a location change of significance, my plans may change. Cooper's works for me fine. Thanks Tim.

[races65]

are we there yet?

[RCRacer]

I don't care where we race as long as everyone has fun and we get to race with Tony. Some of my fondest memories of r/c racing are from Coopers.. Racing with the caliber of drivers that commit to a race like the Open Wheel is awesome and I stink.. I raced the first Open Wheel at Coopers with Tony traded places for about 7 laps, oh the place was 2nd, you know the transfer spot.. That year Tony started like in the G main and I was racing him in the C so he was wheelin it hard...

I hope the race is at Coopers, I am already signed up for the time off, I am coming..

If there is any change in venue I am sure the decision will be made wisely.

As for you who are complaining about the parking fee think of this, it was a fund raiser for the local Fire Department, they helped keep things organized and when you wanted to leave you could, from what I hear, I didn't make it last year, I had taken a break from racing but now I am back and ready for it all, bring it..

Todd Johnson
S F Racing (formerly R/C Racing Products / RCRP)

[Mason]

last night I tore down the enforcer for 'routine' cleaning. and tonight i begin strapping in the lipo tray, 6k mAh juice, spektrum pro receiver, gtb w/velociti 4.5. I think there's only one brushed motored sprint left here at NewRed.
Let's Race!

[outlaw4life]

The same go's for where I race. Most everyone running sprint car has a brushless system. Their is like 10 sprint cars and 2 of them still have brushed motors in them, and it won't be long before the go brushless. I hope that they offer a class at the US Open race this year.

[Jason Smith]

:D RJ,
If the Ranch track was still there, you could count on it. Much warmer in Pomona in December than anywhere back here. That was my favorite track!

The date for the race will be the second weekend in December, same as always. Look for a venue announcement sometime around July.

Rob

Almost into September now, with just over three months to go. How about a little nibble Rob?

[DWarren78]

Hope it will be at coopers, at least for one more year. But if it is somewhere else, everybody kinda needs to know to start looking around at hotels/accomodations, and what tires/parts etc. to get, 3 months isn't that long of a time.

[dylan]

what about rules so we can get bodies done.

[BustedGFX]

Classes??

[Doug D]

Is this race even going to occur this year?

[WEG'S]

Let me clarify that last post. I am not saying if the race will or will not be at cooper's this year. As is the case every year we constantly look for alternative facilities to host this event. The original idea with this race was to have it at a different track each year. Circumstances and limited options have kept the race at the same places in recent years but that was never the original intention. We certainly hope Norris's health improves to the point that it is not even a factor in the decision about the race. As in years past we will look at all options we may have and announce the location for the race sometime in mid to late summer.

Thanks,
Rob Cutman

Dirtsurfer, I know that you are very anxious to find out where the race is going to be. But the date is set so you can go ahead and plan your vacation time from work for then. As far as the place he posted earlier that he would announce a location in mid to late summer. Summer doesn't end until September 23rd on the calendar. And that looks like a little more than a month away to me. I am not saying this sarcasticly but I talked with him this past weekend and he has been working on it. He isn't just sitting around. Everyone will be notified as soon as he knows where it will be.

Tim McNutt

read this and you'll be ok. go to work, turn in your vacation request and relax, there's plenty of time too rebuild your diff.:beer: :thumbsup: :beer: :D

[Rcer19]

easiest thing to do is count down the Nextel chase for the cup, when the last race at Homestead is done, you better have your cars done and be ready, so you have 12 weeks

[kipp]

what about rules so we can get bodies done.
my bet would be that the rules and everything else will be the same as last year. im ready no matter what when or where. when they drop the rag i will be there.

[Quick Change]

I am getting a camper for the week, I can wait to see where I am pulling it too.
Dates are set, I am sure the rules for the classes will be the same as last year. No need to sweat it.

[Fargo Flash]

Lots of interest in the race...so I finally looked back to see when things happened last year....

The official dates and venue were announced on August 18th. We knew the dates a lot earlier this year....hotels shouldn't be a problem in early December regardless of the location of the race.

And for the record....last year the official race website was updated and registration opened on October 19th.

As a change of pace for this topic....if you are one of those that doesn't currently attend the race because it is too far away....let us know where you live and far you would be willing to travel to attend the event. Please keep in mind that in addition to the travel time...most racers spend at least 4 full days at the track for the event....and some spend 7 or more!

[thekid]

any chance we will be aloud to run lipos and brushless? would like to go to the race, but i dont wont do deal with new bats and i have no luck with brushed motors,
and dose anyone know were the race will be at?

[tmr22]

I doubt that they will be running brushless or lipos. They didn't do it last year and I am pretty sure that it won't happen this year.

Tim McNutt

[cobra22431]

Any news on the venu and possibility of brushless classes? Just say no to lipo for now!! LOL its to new and expensive. Brushless motors is a good thing and better for racers who dont know how to build brushed motors properly

[Doug D]

Cobra - I agree, forget LiPo's but allow Brushless! It would be nice to just leave the brushless motor in the car the whole race...;)

[thekid]

Any news on the venu and possibility of brushless classes? Just say no to lipo for now!! LOL its to new and expensive. Brushless motors is a good thing and better for racers who dont know how to build brushed motors properly


cant leave this alone,, lipos are cheaper to run then the others, brushless so i dont have to have a comlathe, brushes, extra motors, to build a motor,, i like all that extra time to work on my setup.i know all about bats and i ran the 6cell bats and now lipos and lipos cost me half as much as the 6cell, and not even the highend 6cells. not trying to start something just giving you a diff way of looking at things,on motors any way,

[kipp]

my opinion on the lipos and brushless sytems being allowed to compete at the u.s. open wheel championships is this... this race is put together and funded by tony stewart and custom works. its thier race. they put all the blood, sweat, and money into it. through out the history of this race (and dirt oval in general) it has been attended and supported by many smaller rc companies that happen to make thier bread and butter by matching racing cells, winding racing motors and building dirt oval cars and parts. this race is for those dedicated dirt oval supporters and teams. if it wasnt for them dirt oval would not be as strong as it is.

allowing lipos and brushless to compete at this event would not be fair to the people that have supported it for years. adding more classes for brushless racers is not an option because this race had over 400 entries last year with the classes we have now. any more classes and we would be there 2 weeks!!

i have nothing at all against brushless and lipos and i am all for making dirt oval rc more affordable. i just feel that at this time there is no room for them at this event. the only class that i feel they would work together is in open mod.

if novak, lrp, tekin or anybody else in the brushless/ lipo business was a major backer/sponser then it would be a different story. its a tall order to put together a race of this magnitude.
again, this is only my opinion on the matter. im not speaking for anybody but myself. ;)

[BustedGFX]

Well said. You spoke for me as well cause I feel the same way.

[latemodel13]

I will race at this race no matter what rules they have. I will not run electric though because of the old tech junk batteries. Lipo's are gaining popularity fast and will not be left out forever so when they become legal i will bring an electric sprint with me . This is Custom works race and they make the rules so either play by their rules or don't race that class. Boy it would be fun to race an outlaw electric sprint class with a 3 cell lipo and a mamba 7700. I would be pulling some serious wheelies!

[tmr22]

I totally agree with Kippy on this. I am glad he said it. Now everyone get your stuff on order, put together, painted and decaled, and lets go and have some fun this year. I am sure Rob will make his announcement on where the race will be in the next few weeks. I am pretty sure that it will be at Cooper's but I am just guessing. If it was going to be at another place he would have done let everybody know by now.

Tim McNutt

[Mason]

Mod. open motor, open 7.4v battery. 6cell min weight. simple. (don't bother with the voltage comments guys - we all can do the math) the track will dictate how much power you can put down anyways.

any thoughts on cleaning up the classes. such as anyone qualifying/racing in a/b/?c? mod mains in the previous year are not allowed to run both stock and mod in same class. (they can choose 1 or the other). big boys n girls need to race in the big boys n girls classes.

my thoughts anyways.

latemodel13, 3s would be 11.1v. we do enough wheelies with 7.4v (2s) and 6.5velocitis. You can only imagine how i get my 4.5 around the track. Its more driving than racing right now.

oh apparently there is a lipo/bl rules package submitted to ROAR for review this month. I won't be surprised if its denied this month but reconsidered at the april? review. (yes this is relevent seeing how we refer to their specs for motors ;)

Butts where are you at.. Come get an eyefull of my fuel cell with your Sprint this weekend. ;)

[Quick Change]

So Mason,
Are you going to the open wheel champs for your 2nd time?

[David Butts]

Butts where are you at.. Come get an eyefull of my fuel cell with your Sprint this weekend. ;)


Thats an unauthorized use of my name there Mason. Please refer to me in the future as Butts(tm) See your fuel cell soon;) and they're called tanks.

[thekid]

oh apparently there is a lipo/bl rules package submitted to ROAR for review this month. I won't be surprised if its denied this month but reconsidered at the april? review. (yes this is relevent seeing how we refer to their specs for motors ;)



bad word, bad word, this isint a roar race is it? on roar rules on motors?

[racer34v]

Any news on the venu and possibility of brushless classes? Just say no to lipo for now!! LOL its to new and expensive. Brushless motors is a good thing and better for racers who dont know how to build brushed motors properly

it may be new but it darn sure aint expensive

[Mason]

bad word, bad word, this isint a roar race is it? on roar rules on motors?

kid, last years rules...
Electric Rules: 6 cell Batteries of up to 4200mah Nicad or NIMH are legal in all electric classes. No Lithium-Polymer (Li-Po) batteries allowed. Also no brushless motor systems are allowed in electric classes. Stock motors handout motors only. Modified motors must be brushed, 05 sized Roar approved motors only. No hybrids! Sprint car minmum weight is 54oz. Edm minimum weight is 52 oz.

Oh gee, i wonder why it refers to ROAR approved motors... because that's where the (U.S.) industry insiders cohort to come up with common grounds to compete on.

otherwise why wouldn't we be running whatever JoeBob down the street comes up with? say 17t doubles with a different wind technique using bearings instead of bushings and 5 cells. or . it makes no sense to fragment the competitive r/c segment any further than it is - that's why.

kip, i dunno yet. i dont plan on using anything other than lipo from here on out in my sprint, and my off-road cars on the off-road series as its allowed starting at the first race in october. (its just nice to show up and work on setup) might even pick up a bmi db12r if i find a lipo to fit in that. working on my nitro truck for off-road regionals in 2 weeks and then to dominate the oval here at newred again. gotta get all that running first before i bother with a nitro sprint. making the trip is almost more about hanging out with the guys than the racing itself. so it also depends on who else is going.

[Mason]

kip, you coming to the r/c pro series nats?

[Jason Smith]

Is Dulles the closest airport to coopers? If so ouch!! 220 miles:(

[radexp]

Jason,

You can fly into Raleigh-Durham (105 miles) or Greensboro (75 miles)

Hope that helps

Alan

[smith20]

you can fly into roanoke regional airport thats the closest one

[Dlan44]

You stand a better chance of getting a non or 1 stop from Ca. to RDU.

[va.racer]

a long shot would be Lynchburg va.
less than a hour to the track, small airport.

[Ralph]

Jason, I have flown into Greensboro the last two years its a straight shot to the track from there and only about an hour to Danville.

Ralph

[Jason Smith]

Thanks for all the info guys....Ralph will you and Tim be making the trip? If so maybe we can work it where we can share like a rental van or something....I should be out this weekend breaking in the new sprinter, if you come out we can talk more about it.:D

[cobra22431]

Well it is expensive to all who do not have any lipo batts and are currently running NIMH. You would need all new batts and chargers. I have 1 year old IB cells still running good and I use tekin 112c chargers. I have only seen 1 lipo car run and it was allowed to run with the regular NIMH cars aug 1st race this summer. I believe this was done just to show what they can do. Since then there has been no new classes for lipo but I am sure there will be in the near future. Brushless is accepted and raced all over in the tri state area of NJ so I have that stuff for almost 2 years now. The decision is really up to custom works and I am just adding my posts to show interest. As far as adding brushless classes making the race take 2 weeks long I dont agree. Many who race brushed would simply move over to brushless and keeping the cap at 400 entries would also resolve any problems with added brushless classes. Possibly you could even run the mod classes brushed or brushless together. Those classes come down to handling and driving all the power both type motors make. Then there would only be one division for brushless in stock with the 13.5 having its own class since we all know 13.5 is faster and cant be run together. Like I said its really up to custom works, I hope we know soon where the race is and what the classes and rules are.

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[dj12nc]

Rob, Any news yet on were we.re goin to race!! is the date stil Dec 6,7.8,9! Rumors are starting too fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[Mason]

bah just push it back to feb and run da birds on dirt. - kidding!

[David Butts]

bah just push it back to feb and run da birds on dirt. - kidding!


I know nut-ting;)

[rj14]

At this point all I have to say is bring back Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The man can run a show!!!!!:checkeredflag: :checkeredflag:

[dirtsurfer5]

Been way too quiet out of the CW camp. What is going on? You guys cooking up something big?!

[tmr22]

We should be hearing something soon. I know Rob wouldn't wait till the last minute to let us know about an event this big. I am sure he is making sure that everything is in order for us to enjoy the thing we love doing the most. Just be patient just a tad bit longer. I am sure that we will find out soon enough.

Tim McNutt

[bulitbill]

Hot off the press, :greenflag: the 2007 Customworks Open Wheel Championship will be held the second weekend in december 2007. The Race will be held at the Bubba Gump R/C Speed Drome located in beautiful Bayou Le Batre Alabama. The Bubba Gump Speed Drome is in a 400,000 square foot heated and cooled facility with indoor plumbing and is located next door to a Taco Bell for your dining pleasure. Make sure to book your rooms early as the Shrimp House motel will surely fill up quick. Check back often as more details will be posed soon.

:checkeredflag:

[lloyd tiger]

cant wait it will be my first time racing and i hear its going to be a great time. cant wait to see ya all down there have a safe trip all.

[MWMOTORSPORTS21]

You'll love it Lloyd. Thanks for the tips on Sunday. They were greatly appreciated. See ya at Newville next week?

Mike

[FRED]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Biodome_Montreal.jpg/800px-Biodome_Montreal.jpg

[solly]

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400,001 square feet of R/C goodness

[the Legend]

And it has beer!

[bulitbill]

Solly, wait till you taste the shrimp PEE and bud light batter dipped frog leggs with sauteed sabre toothed crotch crickets in a nice red sauce.

McNutt, loves them, can eat his weight at one sitting.
Bill

[Quick Change]

OK...............you all had me at BEER!:D

[brockh]

sauteed sabre toothed crotch crickets in a nice red sauce.
Bill
this sounds like a female feminine problem

could be something my avitar dancer had at one point!!!

[BEACHNUTTZ]

Hot off the press, :greenflag: the 2007 Customworks Open Wheel Championship will be held the second weekend in december 2007. The Race will be held at the Bubba Gump R/C Speed Drome located in beautiful Bayou Le Batre Alabama. The Bubba Gump Speed Drome is in a 400,000 square foot heated and cooled facility with indoor plumbing and is located next door to a Taco Bell for your dining pleasure. Make sure to book your rooms early as the Shrimp House motel will surely fill up quick. Check back often as more details will be posed soon.

:checkeredflag:

Bill, is this true?? In Alabama?

[Rob Cutman]

No, Bill's post is not true. Funny, but not true. I appreciate everyones patience with us as we have a lot of things going on with the race this year. Sorry for the delay in getting this done but you all can expect some additional info on the race in the next day or so.

Stay tuned!

Rob Cutman
Custom Works RC Products

[BEACHNUTTZ]

No, Bill's post is not true. Funny, but not true. I appreciate everyones patience with us as we have a lot of things going on with the race this year. Sorry for the delay in getting this done but you all can expect some additional info on the race in the next day or so.

Stay tuned!

Rob Cutman
Custom Works RC Products

Hey BigBoy! Ready for some golf, if it were in AL, bringing clubs with! LOL:thumbsup:

[dylan]

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that can't be in cato it is bigger than the town. it must lap over to the next town

[Todd Putnam]

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You're right Fred- I can see the two tour buses from the Rolling Stones and Guns-N-Roses parked out front, (close personal friends of Solly's who play live at the races,) as well as Solly's boat. If you look real close, you can see Solly standing out front, next to the Bronze Statue of himself, with a beer in one hand, giving the finger to the camera with the other...

This month's centerfold in Playboy has a Solly tattoo on her hiney...:p;):kiss::o

[cobra22431]

Sombody shoot this guy LOL. How dare he toy with our emotions LOL Liar liar pants on fire :p


Hot off the press, :greenflag: the 2007 Customworks Open Wheel Championship will be held the second weekend in december 2007. The Race will be held at the Bubba Gump R/C Speed Drome located in beautiful Bayou Le Batre Alabama. The Bubba Gump Speed Drome is in a 400,000 square foot heated and cooled facility with indoor plumbing and is located next door to a Taco Bell for your dining pleasure. Make sure to book your rooms early as the Shrimp House motel will surely fill up quick. Check back often as more details will be posed soon.

:checkeredflag:

[kipp]

life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get!!

[bulitbill]

Man, you Yankee boys are a bit slow on the up take or you don't watch TV or go to the movies much and early December isn't too bad down here. No it was a joke, poking a little fun at those who were so impatient. Worked too!!, you can't believe the PM's I got wanting info.....
Made my day...... Rob, I will be in touch as soon as we get the other 398,000 Sq/Ft of concrete poured and put a roof over the outside plumbing for next years race.

Bill :D

[Dlan44]

Bill you should have told them that Solly was your adopted LOVE CHILD !
And that he was moving to Alabama. Hell the up state NY Bud distributor would have laid off three drivers.

[solly]

Bill you should have told them that Solly was your adopted LOVE CHILD !
And that he was moving to Alabama. Hell the up state NY Bud distributor would have laid off three drivers.

I dont drink Bud.......Jr sucks

[kipp]

i heard some rumours but im not saying anything.

[solly]

i heard some rumours but im not saying anything.

Chicken

[rj14]

i heard some rumours but im not saying anything.

Chicken

As the man himself would say, the internet is all about starting rumors.....

like this one......

a certain mixer from VA might actually be seen at a race before 2008, that is if Featherlight ever finishes his custom bus. After all how hard is it to put a waterbed in the back of a motorhome??? And furthermore who cares if it doen't have a toilet or a shower? Thats what the hot tub is for, right? At least they didn't have a problem with the 6 keg cooler for the external beer taps. Other than the external 12volt banana plugs do you guys think it needs anything else?

[cobra22431]

Some of us yanks may be slow to realize a joke ( I did not get suckerd, bubba gump :D ) but plan on looking at our rear ends all weekend at the track when we take all the gold home LOL. :ha: :checkeredflag: = :trophy_bronze:
Man, you Yankee boys are a bit slow on the up take or you don't watch TV or go to the movies much and early December isn't too bad down here. No it was a joke, poking a little fun at those who were so impatient. Worked too!!, you can't believe the PM's I got wanting info.....
Made my day...... Rob, I will be in touch as soon as we get the other 398,000 Sq/Ft of concrete poured and put a roof over the outside plumbing for next years race.

Bill :D

[NatureBoy]

Some of us yanks may be slow to realize a joke ( I did not get suckerd, bubba gump :D ) but plan on looking at our rear ends all weekend at the track when we take all the gold home LOL. :ha: :checkeredflag: = :trophy_bronze:


Kellum I guess he told you! The location isn't even official and your getting pushed around.
Don't worry bro. I'll stick with you.

BT

[kipp]

sounds like a good old fashion north vs south rivalry brewing here. dont worry bill, those slow yankees will pick up the pace when the rag drops!!

[bulitbill]

Natureboy, Kippy, All I can tell you about those Yankee boys is they sure do talk a good race and FOOTBALL GAME, but as history shows when the :greenflag:green flag drops the cream comes to the top. I hear all this gum flapping and it kinda sounds like the BCS championship game last year and we all know how that turned out. As slow on the up-take as ya'll are by the time you understand the green is waiving you will be three laps down and crying in Solly's beer :beer:
(which he is not too fond of) the crying not the beer (for you northern boys).
So make your reservations early and let the SMACK DOWN BEGIN!!!:trophy_bronze:

Bulitbill

[DWarren78]

Just announced, all A-main winners this year will receive a Tony Stewart Signature edition Toyota Yaris instead of the usual trophy.http://photos.xigroupauto.com/evox/COLOR_0640_001/3453/3453_CC0640_001_068.JPG

[Quick Change]

So that's the new 1/8 scale that just come out....:D

[David Butts]

Did someone beer?

http://www.freewebs.com/irvan36mm/drunk_squirrel_II.jpeg

[kipp]

i always knew solly was a squirrel.

[solly]

i always knew solly was a squirrel.

better than a woodchuck

[kipp]

if the rumours im hearing are true there are going to be some major changes this year. some people will be very happy and others not so much. all in all it sounds like they are doing things to promote the growth of the sport. im hearing some classes may go away and others added. thats all i feel comfortable saying so i will bite my tongue and wait for the official announcement. all this hoopla kinda reminds me of jr moving to hendricks and everyone wondering what car number and so on.

[Quick Change]

Did someone beer?

http://www.freewebs.com/irvan36mm/drunk_squirrel_II.jpeg
YEA!!! ..... I DID

[Doug D]

if the rumours im hearing are true there are going to be some major changes this year. some people will be very happy and others not so much. all in all it sounds like they are doing things to promote the growth of the sport. im hearing some classes may go away and others added. thats all i feel comfortable saying so i will bite my tongue and wait for the official announcement. all this hoopla kinda reminds me of jr moving to hendricks and everyone wondering what car number and so on.


Classes going away, oh boy, I just bought a GBX Enforcer, I hope electric sprinters aren't going anywhere...:confused:

[rj14]

better than a woodchuck

small woodland creature bias?

besides from what i hear, i do not have any personal knowledge of this, but squirrel's are known for thier ability to carry large nuts in thier cheeks.

[David Butts]

Classes going away, oh boy, I just bought a GBX Enforcer, I hope electric sprinters aren't going anywhere...:confused:

Doug, Even though I'm not "in the loop", I'll go out on a limb and say, There is no chance that e-Sprint cars are going anywhere anytime soon. The race is called the open wheel champs afterall, I'm thinking that some of the subclasses will disappear, Stock sprints to me is an oxymoron, Let'em loose

I have never been to this race but I'm really gonna try to get to it no matter where it is this year.

[fozzy767]

isnt mark corns a yankee????

[rj14]

isnt mark corns a yankee????

American History 101-

a "Yankee" is anyone who is from what was formerly a state in the Union from the Civil War era.

I don't see how Mark fits into this discussion, we were talking about beer, woodland creatures, starting rumors and the Open Wheel race. I know we are all excited about these subjects but we havent even hit November yet. Lets focus here people.:D

[Doug D]

Doug, Even though I'm not "in the loop", I'll go out on a limb and say, There is no chance that e-Sprint cars are going anywhere anytime soon. The race is called the open wheel champs afterall, I'm thinking that some of the subclasses will disappear, Stock sprints to me is an oxymoron, Let'em loose

I have never been to this race but I'm really gonna try to get to it no matter where it is this year.

David, me to, this race looks killer....sprint stock or mod, doesn't matter to me!