Amc Spirit

[RATFINK55]

ok i have no clue how or why i still have this.. i found it a month or so ago in the garage loft... this is the first EDM i ever had... its a Parma AMC Spirit modified.. i guess that tells you how old it is.. lol... its alteast 20 years old...still on the vintage chassis...with the CRP rear hoop bumper.. look at this size of those quarter panels compared to cars now!.... the second pic(1986) is when this body was new! before the rc10s took over... was on a hornet! straight axle rear...the hornet was all plastic but it was fast and only cost 78$ for a roller with a manual speed control...and yes a stick controller! pistol radios were for pro rich boys! lol ......pic at Raceplace, Quakertown,Pa

[Doug Carter]

And painted with a paintbrush... awesome!



Restore that bad boy!

[JohnBoy72]

I need to get my hands on an old gold pan RC10 and get on this restore trip...Really my first DO car was a RC10 gold pan with the stock tranny...no stealth...Am I correct to believe it was a original or Champ...didn't the RC10's go like this

Original-gold pan w/6 gear stock tranny
Champ-gold pan w/stealth
Worlds-black pan
Team-graphite
then so on???

[RATFINK55]

the first rc10 had the gold pan and shocks... and came with a wiper arm resistor speed control... you can still find them on ebay...i have a few but all are hacked up... thats what racers did was drill and cut those tubs into swiss cheese...

[rj14]

with any luck in a couple of months i will be posting an original rc10 w/ shocks minus the wiper sc (trashed a long time ago) it is a complete roller w/ original tranny and everything. will also include the esc that was in it (old red tekin that would take unlimited cells) and an 8 cell sanyo scr pack. (sorry Doug, but it is a sub-c pack, the short cells) plus the ol gold tub hasn't been swiss cheesed.

so start thinking, and planning, you will only have to wait until March. LOL!

[RATFINK55]

i still have futaba speed controls... they were great just dont add to much voltage... then i had a Victor speed control... they sucked for service!smashed it with a hammer and sent it back to them....... i have a few old 6 gear trannys.. i have old thorp 48 pitch gear conversions... and a newer RPM stealth conversion... i have some old "VALVE-0-matic"shock pistons to.... a 2 piece shock piston...open on the up stroke and closes on the down stroke...

[JohnBoy72]

I think there was two versions of the Gold Pan cars...My dad was racing one with a Stealth...then when I wanted to move up to DO (was racing Blackfoots), he got me a Gold Pan RC10 with the stock 6 gear tranny....I was just looking on EBAY...I think I just found me a new calling! Restoring some of my old rides. As far as the SWISS CHEESE chassis...yes, I had one car that had some many holes in it, I'm surprised it didn't have crazy flex. Then another, I cut the slotted the left side then bent it flat to get my batteries offset to the left side. Those were the cars. Seeing plenty of them on Ebay, I wouldn't mind picking up a few and building them in different styles we did back then.

[RATFINK55]

well they still made the gold tub when the stealh came out... infact the early kits came with a drill plate to mount the stealth tranny in a old chassis..then they made a black tub just before the graphite chassis rc10 stealth came out

[JohnBoy72]

Original-gold pan w/6 gear stock tranny
Champ-gold pan w/stealth
Worlds-black pan
Team-graphite
then so on??

^^^Changed my earlier post...I agree...

[rj14]

for some reason i remember the champ edition w/ the stealth that had a black chassis as well, the reason is I raced w/ a guy who made his own tranny, cause he could and he was also playing w/ different gearing. I know mine is the 6 gear champ edition, first release (either 90 or 91) because they then released the same kit w/ the stealth, i think like 93????

[RATFINK55]

yes more old stuff.... the days when you made your own speed parts....

[rj14]

ok..... had to look it up-

RC10 (1984)
RC10 Graphite (1989)- also called TQ10
RC10 Champ (1990) 6 gear
RC10 Champ (1992) Stealth
RC10 Team (1990)
RC10 Worlds
then the B2

[Doug Carter]

And here's a trivia question...

Where did the TQ10 fall?




:D

[rj14]

do you mean the DS Qual ??????????:confused: :confused:

[Bulldog_Wally14]

I think it was right before the Graphite RC10.

[rj14]

And here's a trivia question...

Where did the TQ10 fall?




:D


Trick Question! The graphite is the TQ!:D

[intimidator]

http://www.rc10.com/basicshub/timeline/timeline-complete.htm
maybe this will help

[scr8p]

the tq10 came out shortly before the 6 gear rc10 graphite. it was more or less an original gold tub with a graphite chassis. short front arms and all, distributed by horizon hobbies. then when associated came out with the rc10 graphite, it had the wide front end, so horizon then updated their kit to the longer arms also. but, everyone wanted the associated car, so the tq10 just died off.

[Doug Carter]

I think it was right before the Graphite RC10.

the tq10 came out shortly before the 6 gear rc10 graphite. it was more or less an original gold tub with a graphite chassis. short front arms and all, distributed by horizon hobbies. then when associated came out with the rc10 graphite, it had the wide front end, so horizon then updated their kit to the longer arms also. but, everyone wanted the associated car, so the tq10 just died off.


Correct! The TQ10 was a completely different car than the graphite car, sold ONLY by Horizon. It pre-dated all of the Associated models that were anything different from the gold tub.

[shoemaker]

We ran ony the spirit body by parma in 1984 at Mod Stock Raceway in Rochester,NY and we had 2 classes of stock modifieds. Imported cars (Plastic) by Tamyia and Associated Gold Tub cars. all had to run the same body. The oldest living rc racer Dave Lawrence was the first driver to modify his body by adding a full interior and cutting out all the windows.This was the start of hand made bodies is this area. Spring of 1985 all drivers were hand cutting their own bodies and very little was offered by the manufactures. Mod Stock started therir track in the fall of 1982 and most or all cars were 1/12 using mud bus bodies with 1/10 wheels and tires. These cars worked well untill the RC-10 came out and everything else is history.Long live the good old days.

[RATFINK55]

i wish Lee Toyer would post pics that he has....he has some amazing old dirtoval pics!... its one thing to talk about the past its quite another to show pics of it....anyone can remember...but show old pics

[bigh]

I don't know but that looks more like an amc gremlin body witch was very popalour in dirt mods in upstate ny in the mid to late 70s.The spirit was a sedan.

[bigh]

Don't get me wrong what ever it is i too love the oldies.

[Chris K]

http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_1.jpgI've done a full restoration of the RC 10 from mostly new parts - the fun part was matching the body from the box art on the original BOX..... I owe a BIG thanks to Clint Seitz of Clint's Creations for the body paint - it was REALLY tough for him to get those thin lines masked....

The car is built as we ran them in '86 here in the Kansas City area - it has a Futaba 132 servo, a Novak receiver and a Tekin speed control. The motor is an ORIGINAL motor that came in the box. This chassis has a couple of scratches on it - but nothing major and was the best that I could find at the time. If my memory serves me correctly, I bought it from Rob Cutman on Ebay!

The car is fully functional - I have run it just enough to know that it works and NOT put any marks on it! I also have a set of the chrome wheels mounted with new tires along with a set of the 'KC HiLights' that came with the car - just never had the heart to make holes in the body!

Here's the final result!

http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_4.jpg



http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_2.jpg

[Chris K]

http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_3.jpgI've done a full restoration of the RC 10 from mostly new parts - the fun part was matching the body from the box art on the original BOX..... I owe a BIG thanks to Clint Seitz of Clint's Creations for the body paint - it was REALLY tough for him to get those thin lines masked....

The car is built as we ran them in '86 here in the Kansas City area - it has a Futaba 132 servo, a Novak receiver and a Tekin speed control. The motor is an ORIGINAL motor that came in the box. This chassis has a couple of scratches on it - but nothing major and was the best that I could find at the time. If my memory serves me correctly, I bought it from Rob Cutman on Ebay!

The car is fully functional - I have run it just enough to know that it works and NOT put any marks on it! I also have a set of the chrome wheels mounted with new tires along with a set of the 'KC HiLights' that came with the car - just never had the heart to make holes in the body!

Here's the final result!

http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_4.jpg



http://www.heartlandrc.com/photopost/data/500/medium/RC_10_2.jpg

[JohnBoy72]

Nice, that was just like the first one I got started in dirtoval with. Except I was running lowbuck with a Futaba ESC. Speaking of ESC's, I found an old Tekin and Novak from my early days of racing but I believe they are shot. Is there anyone that knows where they can be rebuilt? Or should I search night and day looking for a working replacement?

[kipp]

the 80s called.......they want there cars back!!!

[JohnBoy72]

WOW!!! You have those for display or sale?

[kipp]

both. i have been buying, selling and swapping the old rc10 stuff for years.

[RATFINK55]

wow thats kool Kipp... lots of parts i havent seen in years... Andys parts... the one car has the parma foot wide bumper...i have yet to see any HotTrick chassis parts,...

[JohnBoy72]

Is Andy's still in business...I'll look but just curious. I found an old Andy's T rear body post. Wouldn't mind getting a couple more.

[tulsa]

heres a couple old pics of the 80's.two of the cars are tq10s and the other is a bolink invader i belive. the two tq10 bodies i built and the invader has a parma amc gremlin body.

[Doug Carter]

Is Andy's still in business...I'll look but just curious. I found an old Andy's T rear body post. Wouldn't mind getting a couple more.


Nope, they went out a long time ago. Andy Jacobsen is still working in the R/C buz, though. I believe he is still at Pegasus Hobbies.



Nice collection, Kipp. Three TQ10s, no less. Sweet!






You guys interested in the old school stuff should check out www.rc10talk.com. Pretty cool little group of guys over there WAY deep into the old school collecting of RC10s and vintage cars.

[towbar]

Ross you asked for it !

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[RATFINK55]

wow those pics are amazing! the middle pic is a perfect action shot,the #108 looks real! you can see the old futaba box controller leaning againt the sprinter in the top pic....what track & year were these? thanks for posting them Lee!

[towbar]

The track belonged to Rolland Sparr in East Greenville Pa. The drivers stand was donated to Ray and rebuilt by him and the crew the stand now is in easton at Trains & Lanes

[DirtFords1]

Towbar,Pics are too kool,center pic is KILLER!! Check the fat & skinny front tires
I love it!!Thanks for sharing.:D

[AscotConversion]

Those are awesome pictures. I have never seen Tamiya sprint cars before. Awesome....

[towbar]

That was a Hornet that I made the cage and bars for only a few were made on the East Coast

[DirtFords1]

Would anyone know or have the part # for the AMC Spirit body?? Thanks ahead.

[DirtFords1]

Here's a rough template I came up with ,about 20 mins. worth of pencil and ruler work. Up against the Mudbus body,it's proportioned real close,should work just fine. any comments??Thanks

[RATFINK55]

thats kool DirtFords1! you plan on making one?? the kool part is that REAL old dirt mod bodies were homemade so you really cant make it wrong,almost all bodies were different .. here is an old one i still have from the mid 80s i never finished it because i had it autographed.....just sits on a shelf unfinished..the Taxi....
DIRTFORDS1 the part # for the Parma AMC SPIRIT body is #10210..

[JohnBoy72]

You know I spent my whole childhood drawing Mudbus'....I think I could start up the old habit once again. Maybe start making some bodies again too...

[DirtFords1]

RF,Yes sir I plan on folding a few of 'em for sure.I have a couple old AE sprint car center sections,and was messing with fitting it to that body(hacked) of course;) Basically removed the tail section,and went from there.That old pic towbar posted of the 108 car got me all wound out.I have spoken with a couple guys about getting some AMC,and Mudbus bodies done,I'll keep you's posted.

Ross,Thanks,I have both part#'s for the bodies now.TTYS!!

[TonyProCar]

Check out www.3widespicturevault.com (http://www.3widespicturevault.com) 1980's pg 21 Sammy Beavers #81 Mod. That would make a great vintage R/C car body.

[RATFINK55]

OLDRoss you asked for it !

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[tyler]

moody still makes mudbus bodys pm me if ya intrested i cam get them from my home track(monee r/c raceway)

[RATFINK55]

thats kool...but a mud bus from Illinois?? lol ..

[Bandit19]

That 126 looks pretty cool!! :thumbsup: Ross you got mail.

[RATFINK55]

Hey Fred, here is the steve weller pic,and a RP pic

[tyler]

what u dont think us from ill know about mudbus?????just because they werny raced here back in the day dosent mean we dont know our modifed history

[RATFINK55]

i was kidding relax! its kool :)

[RATFINK55]

RacePlace rules , 87:checkeredflag: all cars need a flag!

[tyler]

not mad not at all:thumbsup:

[IRON LOU]

RacePlace rules , 87:checkeredflag: all cars need a flag!
LOL!! Ratfink,somewhere in my vast pile of RC stuff,there a small container with 10 or so different colored flags,and a little alligator clip I just don't have the heart to throw out...