Making reproduction vintage bodies from old ones...

[Doug Carter]

I think we discussed this once a few years ago, but I can't find the thread.

I have a couple of new and uncut original Premier/Twister dirt oval wedge bodies, and after searching for more of the last 7 years or so, I haven't had much luck acquiring more. I have a feeling that the supply of NOS bodies out there is drying up. While there is little market for a fringe replica body in a fringe R/C division, but I want to make or have made a handful of reproduction bodies for some restoration projects I am working on. I just don't have the heart to paint and cut up a NOS vintage body that I probably won't find ever again.


So does anyone pull their own bodies, or have the capability of pulling 1/10th scale wedge bodies? First and foremost, I'd like to backfill this body and create a usable vacuum mold to work with sometime down the road. I'd feel better about painting these up if I knew I could make more when I needed/wanted them. Does anyone have any suggestions on the proper materials to use for lexan mold pulling? I have asked a couple of body makers about a small run of replicas, and they both told me they wouldn't pull someone else's designs, even if the company went out of business 15 years ago. :(


Any suggestions?



And as long as I'm at it, if anyone has any or knows of where I may find any old school Twister/Premier bodies that are not yet painted or cut up, I'm always interested.





doug

[Eugene Ryder]

Doug, call A+ Bodies in Madison Ill, 618-910-0461 ask for Nick, he may be able to help you.

Eugene

[glgraphix]

Doug, call or email Roy Anderson at RAE. He is the previous owner of Grand Motorsports. He has a successful body buisness now and my be able to help you out with the people you need to speak to. His # is (763) 424-5757. Hope you find what your looking for, if you do LMK I have a vintage NIP '64 Fairlane T-Bolt I would love to have redone. Its an old Parma.

[DirtFords1]

Depending on the cost,I might be into getting a couple Oldies bodies done.
I have a couple NIP that I'm sure some would like to see again.Rite Kevin!!;)

[glgraphix]

You know it Brother, I have so many oldies I could think of right now its mind bottling. LOL

[shoemaker]

Moody Automotive can supply all the coupe bodies you want and make them in ABS or Lexan and even the very first TROYER MUD BUSS in 1/10 scale. It was a 2 piect body with interior and driver figure. It would be great to see these old bodies running again at local tracks or the national events. Roy Moody also makes many 1/12 style dirt edm bodies dating back to the early 80s. We use to race the 1/12 edms on dirt before the supension cars came into this country. Just think, how great it was in the early days of rc racing.

[DirtFords1]

Shoe' or anyone have any pics of the early Troyer Mudbus from Moody?/ I'd like to see some of those?? Thanks ahead.;)

[RATFINK55]

I dont remember a Moody mudbus, but i remember Parma made a 1/10th Mudbus...Parma made this as a update from the AMC Spirit modified....

[wirenut]

I think these are 1/10th scale
wirenut

[RATFINK55]

is there a site where you can see the Moody mud bus body??

[DirtFords1]

I just picked up the Parma mudbus off of ebay a few weeks back. NIP. I see the coupe pic from wirenuts post.Curious what the mudbus looks like still.Thanks.

[huffrcman]

If Parma still has the molds they will pop out some for you.But you have to buy I think at least 25 of them.

[JohnBoy72]

If that's the case, we should do a groupbuy. I see groupbuys all the time on one of my favorite sites, www.fordtruckworld.com (http://www.fordtruckworld.com) ...if ya don't know what I'm talking about, designate one person such as Doug to round up the money...then we place a order. fordtruckworld does it all the time to get parts at a cheaper price. So if Parma can pop out some bodies and you need numbers, let me know...I'll pick up one or two. This is my favorite body style anyways....

I just emailed Parma...don't know if anyone else did this. I'll let y'all know if I hear anything....

[shoemaker]

I think these are 1/10th scale
wirenut
These cars on the wall are 1/12 size and are the Moody designed wire chassis with 4 cells and are still the best chassis ever made that worked not only carpet but worked very well on the dirt tracks back in the early 80's. If you crashed and bent the chassis all you had to do was loosen 6 set screws and slide the old chassis out and slide in the new. To bad we dont run 1/12 on dirt tracks anymore. I think I still have the orginal full size drawnings of the 1/12 wire chassis. All these cars used a solid axle rear end.

[DirtFords1]

Straight up,if someone wants to take the lead,I'll be up for some bodies,depending on what's going to be done.

[RATFINK55]

wow if thats true if Parma still has both old mudbus & AMC mod molds i would buy that many...pics from the free PARMA body poster..

[JohnBoy72]

haven't heard anything back yet....wonder if everyone starts flooding them with emails then maybe we'd get some attention?

[JohnBoy72]

wow if thats true if Parma still has both old mudbus & AMC mod molds i would buy that many...pics from the free PARMA body poster..

What chassis is that sprint car? Looks awfully familar....My first RC car had the same front bumper and similar rims.....

[RATFINK55]

its either a tamiya hornet or frog...i would say a horent by its rear tires, frog had sand tires "paddle tread"

[scr8p]

hey ratfink, thanks for that pic. i couldn't for the life of me remember who made that monte carlo body i got.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/scr8p/IMG_1284.jpg (http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/scr8p/IMG_1284.jpg)

[RATFINK55]

WOW,,,, thats kool to see a body that old! and with that DE paint! that body is a keeper!!!! hard to imagine rc nascar bodies so boxy ...lol ... i had a quaker state Parma t bird... althought the real one was a buick...todd bodine/ricky rudd... i bet that body would sell for alot on ebay!! but dont sell it lol

[scr8p]

i wish it was an aerocoupe body, though. i rememeber in an old issue of rcca, they did an article about the panda stocker. it was a cheap car, kinda reminds me of a grasshopper, but it had an aerocoupe body on it, painted up like dale's wrangler car.

[RATFINK55]

wow you remember that car... i have magazine pics of it... the only Dale car at the time....i remember it was a lame rc car....dont i wish i had it now lol

[RATFINK55]

wow and i thought everyone would like that old wedge body or the AMCSpirit!!

[DirtFords1]

I'd be in for a few Mudbus' and AMC Spirits'. parma is also the co. that made the 37' Ford sedan.that would be another on my list.

[wirenut]

After reading shoemakers description of the Moody 1/12th scale, I started digging thru the basement and I think this might be one

[glgraphix]

Dan, now your talking my language. I'm in for sure on the '37 sedan.
Rat, I would also go for the Outlaw Wedge.

[Rippin]

I'd be in for a few Mudbus' and AMC Spirits'. parma is also the co. that made the 37' Ford sedan.that would be another on my list.


whatcha gonna do Dan, hog all the 37 sedan bodies???? :-)

[DirtBoy]

Hey Rippin' how in the heck have you been doin'? I just recently returned to the RC scene and saw your post.

Dirt Boy (Pat Monaco)

[shoemaker]

Hey Dirt Boy you are on the right site, Your equipment is as old as mine.

[DirtFords1]

Big John!! Glad to see your back on the web.If all went well,a few 37's for you pal,return the favor ya' hear me??!! You still at the same e-mail address?? We'll see what happens with the body thread.TTYS!! ;)

[RATFINK55]

that 1/12 scale dirt car is kool! i guess its made from associated 1/12 pan car stuff.. i have an old 12th pan car.. is Moody still around? how do you find out or see what they have? and here is a Parma 36 Ford..

[RATFINK55]

here is another old wedge body by McAllister! a mustang wedge... how great would this body be with the front and back windows cut out with an inner panel!

[towbar]

Moody 1/12 scale mud bus
9375
9376

[shoemaker]

Towbar show us a picture of the Moody 1/10 mudbus it looks pretty much the same as the 1/12.

[towbar]

Sorry I could not find one in my collection :mad:

[DirtFords1]

fellas,this is a great thread with alot of kool pics.Let me ask,is anyone seriously interested in a few of these old bods here??With vintage RC being quite popular,it only be fitting to have some Vintage bods for 'em.With the partcipation on this thread,I'm sure a bunch of you guys still have that old gold tub/graphite car or Hornet/Frog,Losi,Kyosho buggy,they used to race a long time ago.get a couple bodies ,throw a radio and esc in it and run it.Who'd be willing to anty up,and come to some reasonable decision on what bodies to try and attain?
I know myself,I would be in for 8-12 peices,and could come up with the loot to cover my order.Anyone else??I would think between Doug,and Mr. Antilley we could do something through the board as far as gathering $$,maybe some sort of paypal account set up from DO.com ?? Just an idea.I'm sure Parma,maybe even Gary McAllister would break out some old molds,(if available)and pull a bunch if the numbers were rite.How 'bout it gents!?Maybe a poll is in order for suggestions/choices?? I'm in.Thanks all.

[JohnBoy72]

Just let me know...I'm in. I'm going to hit up this vintage thing.

[DirtFords1]

Maybe some feedback from the body people,and Doug,and Dan and see if this could be a GO.

[Doug Carter]

In talking with Gary at McAllister, he has a few of the old molds in storage, and could produce them in limited quantities at a special price for the DirtOval.com members. depending on the feedback and response, we could assemble a group buy to get you hands on genuine re-released dirt oval bodies.

Still in usable condition are the Wedge Mustang, Luminator and possibly the Wedge 'Vette. The Outlaw T-Bird and X-Terminator are not able to reproduced, unfortunately.



Once more details are available, I will post more information on this really cool opportunity for us.

[Doug Carter]

Price per body would be $12.99 for any of the original McAllister bodies, plus shipping. Would there be any interest in any of the previously mentioned bodies?



Also, I am trying to see if there is a possibility of getting the Protoform Vortex Wedge and original Protoform sprint car bodies re-made. If I can pull this off, how much interest would there be in either of these items?

Please post your interest, as it will determine the likeliness of getting them produced.


:tire:

[Brad Ferks]

I'd jump all over your idea for redoing some of the old Premier designs stuff, but I can't say as I ever had any love for the protoform dirt bodies myself. To each their own though.

[huffrcman]

Protform stuff will be hard to get reproduced.When Proline bought it from Dale Epp they got most of the molds.

[Doug Carter]

I'm with ya on that, Brad. I have some ideas, and now I have a source for getting them done. We'll see what I can do with the bodies I have been collecting. ;) I have a Stealth and a Super Wedge, as well as a Premier Vortex. I have an original Andy's NDRA Super Wedge, as well. I'm trying to get my hands on a Bat Wedge, as well, for historical significance. All of these cars are long-gone, so copyrights shouldn't be an issue. They expired years after these companies dissolved. As soon as I can learn what needs to be done to create new buck molds, I think I may be able to offer repros of these early wedges. :D

I've been talking with Dale at Protoform. He's trying to track down the molds for the early bodies and he's not positive that they are still usable. We'll see what becomes of that, but he was excited at the current interest in dirt oval racing, in general. That could mean good things for everyone. :)




More news as I have it.

[mopar70]

I'd be down for a couple. Any way to post a pic of what each looked like?

[mrtallguy]

id be in for a couple of each of the bodies that were mentioned by you doug. just let me know when you need the funds.

[JohnBoy72]

As long as I have a heads up, I'll be interested in some bodies...kind of a pack rat! Will work with you and have the wife send some funds while I'm over here....

[Tall Paul]

Doug,

Sent you an email.

[J Rogers]

I had one of those wide Monte Carlo body on a old Bolink Eliminator pan car. Those were the days .

[grt0404]

I would be interested in a few different bodys. Any pictures of the Luminator body? I think my son ran one on his jrx2.

[butchman]

I'd be in for a Troyer mud bus too!!I raced with Maynard a few :D years ago.
Radio control boats,not modifieds,he was into them real big.Nicest guy !!
I used to race a mud bus electric many moons ago,would love to run one nitro oval

[DirtFords1]

All,I did a little search,and came up with this link: http://members.fbx.com/~rmurdock/windtunnel/

There's a bunch of the early style latemodel bodies on there.A bunch of different widths.
Hope this helps out.

[RATFINK55]

i guess this body maker copies old bodies?bootlegs?lol... alot are old Blink Bodies/CW/ect... perhaps he is a source for repro. bodies if you have an old uncut body he can make a copy...?

[huffrcman]

Murdock bought the molds from Bolink, another guy in Iowa has the Legends stuff.

[Doug Carter]

No, Windtunnel bought all of the old Bolink molds from Steve Rule a few years ago. I think Roy Anderson bought the drag bodies from them, too. Those are all OEM Bolinks, in fresh pulls.

:D